wombatie Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have been stack cutting for years but I only just thought of this question. (Ok I used to be blonde) :lol: After I have finished stack cutting I always seem to spend a long time sanding the bottom piece. Do any of you just cut an extra piece and throw the bottom piece away or do you just do like I do and sand and sand and sand? Marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have no problem with Olson reverse blades. Some times I have to use a stiff brush on the bottom pce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrimper Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Marg, that is a good question. I do sometimes place a sacrificial piece over my smaller items, sometimes top and bottom, as Master Scroller says using reverse tooth blades minimise problems. I often cut 4 or 5 at once and I find the top one with the glued on pattern the most difficult to salvage, I glue the pattern on and with delicate patterns it is difficult removing all traces of the pattern, normally I use a 6" wide belt sander to do this but it is a bit fierce. Generally the bottom one is not so much a problem when using reverse teeth blades. I rarely cut just one of an item unless I am using thick material. I always cut at least 2 often 3 even if I only need one, you then have a bonus if they all turn out. Often when I show my daughters something I have made they want one anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Thanks Marge ,i never thought of that, I try not to stack cut myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullyscroller Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Marg i stack cut as many as 6 - 1/4" ply depending on the pattern and use #3 fdur blades with very little sanding at all sully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonR Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Marg, I always cut an extra one and very occasionally, I throw the bottom one away but it can usually be salvaged by sanding and burning. Don R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdub4ever Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have found with stack cutting, when I need to sand the bottom piece I use 100 grit paper and it works rather fast to remove any fuzzies. Then I go over it with 220 grit and it's good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansnow Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I will often use a piece of 3/32 door skin, hardboard, or cheap ply as a bottom sacrificial piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I almost always cut in a stack and always try to save the bottom piece. I like using a torch to burn off the fuzzies, then a quick wipe with sandpaper and most of the time they are good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Reverse tooth blades Marg, cuts on the down and on the up no sanding well there might be a little fuzzy somewhere. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Worst piece on the bottom, save if you can or toss if it's just too much work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Marg, Here is something that I do that used to scare me because I thought it would break my pieces but found it not to be the case. I use a random orbital sander with a 220 grit paper on it. After I cut my pieces I just sand them on both sides with my orbital sander and then i use a large stiff toothbrush, (one designed for false teeth) and it all only takes a couple of minutes and does a great job of r me. If you are afraid of the sander breaking the wood, I want you to know that was how I took the fuzzies off my Eiffel Tower and that was full of very small and frequent holes. it never broke a single hole. No burning, no hand sanding and no throwing away pieces. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I just cut some cheep plywood and I also have excessive burrs. The wood is too soft and it leaves burrs. with harder ply wood I have no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton717 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 I use a propane torch to burn the fuzzies off. works well just don't hold it to long in one place the edges will burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton717 Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Marg, that is a good question. I do sometimes place a sacrificial piece over my smaller items, sometimes top and bottom, as Master Scroller says using reverse tooth blades minimise problems. I often cut 4 or 5 at once and I find the top one with the glued on pattern the most difficult to salvage, I glue the pattern on and with delicate patterns it is difficult removing all traces of the pattern, normally I use a 6" wide belt sander to do this but it is a bit fierce. Generally the bottom one is not so much a problem when using reverse teeth blades. I rarely cut just one of an item unless I am using thick material. I always cut at least 2 often 3 even if I only need one, you then have a bonus if they all turn out. Often when I show my daughters something I have made they want one anyway! to remove my pattern I spray or wipe on mineral spirits. I loosens the glue and the pattern peels right off, if not I apply a little more. once all the pattern is off I wipe it down again to make sure all the glue residue is gone, let it dry and apply finish as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 When cutting 1/4 inch ply I always stack three. The bottom one needs to be sanded but not usually much. I use the new FD 3/0 spiral blades. I also burn the backs to get rid of any hairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Thanks everyone. I have used Reverse Tooth blades but I still got fuzzies. I would NEVER use a torch I don't trust me or it, afraid of burning the whole thing. I hate spirals. And Dick I DO use a small orbital sander every time I scroll something, I just need to make it courser sand paper obviously. So I may add a trow away piece at the bottom and see if that helps me. Thanks for all of your answers, I also think it was a good topic for all of the newbies. Marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullyscroller Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Marg , for me going to the fdur blades was like going from skip blades to the reverse skip blades. night and day. If you haven't tried them you will be amazed at how well they work on stack cutting. They are almost to aggressive for single 1/4" ply, you really need to slow the saw speed down then. sully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 To answer your question - Yes. To explain my answer - Sometimes I use a trow away piece. Sometimes I don't. (Like the old commercial "Sometimes you feel like a nut, Sometimes you don't.") Depends on what blade I use, what wood I use, and mostly if I remember to add one. When I am cutting, I use my 4 in 1 tool. Cut awhile and while giving the saw a break, sand the bottom of the bottom piece with the 4 in 1. Gives some support when sanding. Cut some more, sand, etc. When cutting is finished only a little left to sand on the bottom. Plus I think removing the fuzies as I cut makes the wood move better. I hand sand or use orbital sander. Even when I have piece wraped in painters tape, I will sand but by hand then. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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