LarryEA Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I have an option of either of these saws. A used Hawk pictured here..... on Craigslist Scroll Saw - Brand New - $450 or Best Offer - Contact ............. Or a A brand new Dewalt My wife wants me to get the Dewalt because it has a warrenty PS: The saw I buy will be my second saw. I have a Delta 20-690 I bought in 2010 Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Scroller Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) This is completely unscientific but my gut says go with the Hawk but only because there is a happy dog in the picture. How old and how much use on the Hawk? The Delta is similar to the DeWalt. The Hawk looks to be a bigger model in the pic than a DeWalt. Is the owner replacing the Hawk or doesn't care for scrolling? I wish I had your dilemma. I do have a happy dog and I like red. Go with the Hawk. Edited December 10, 2014 by Southern Scroller LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullyscroller Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Dewalt sully LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendita Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think I'd go for the hawk, simply on reputation only. Resale value you can always get your money back out of it and 2 if you decide for door #2 the DW788 it will be more then likely be a type 2 and people are dumping them for the upgrade to a hawk. The warranty on the Dw isn't that great anyway and only good til the saw is at its wear out point then your on your own. No I'd go for the Hawk. .../Hans LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grosa Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Hawk, I have had mine for many years and cut many project. I never had a problem and never needed to use the warranty. It's still going strong. Edited December 10, 2014 by grosa LarryEA and Wilson's Woodworking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 SS votes Hawk Thank you SS Sully votes Dewalt Thank you Sully Hans votes Hawk Thank you Hans Grosa votes Hawk Thank you Grosa Florida and Mexico go Hawk Tennessee goes Dewalt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Offer the man 425.00 for the Hawk and do not look back!.............Good luck!........Let us know where you land. LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Only You and the SHADOW, Know what will make you happy ,If you Need a backup ,and will use enough to justify ,Give her Hell ! Good Luck!! LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I got rid of my DeWalt to get a Hegner because, while the DeWlat cut very well, it died just out of warranty. My two Hegners and my Jet all have induction motors instead of brushed motors like on DeWalt saw. Much more durable motor type but single speed. What kind of motor is on the Hawk? LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson's Woodworking Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 `I would go with the the Hawk and offer him $350 to start. You can always meet in the middle at $400 and you will both be happy as you take the lady home. LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepy Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I agree that after trying the hawk, I would offer $350 to open negotiation. I say to try it first because I found out the hard way. Saw an auction with a Hawk that was 18" and I knew they hadn't made that size. Turns out it was a 26" but when we finally got it plugged in found out the variable speed was acting up. The lady said oh that, it just takes some fiddling to get it running. amazingkevin and LarryEA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 How much is a 'New' Hawk? I don't know the model or year and can't call him until 01:00pm today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Take a look at it or even try and then make up your mind . It is all up to you. amazingkevin and LarryEA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullyscroller Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Don't know if it's a issue but how far away is he and who pays to ship if needed ? sully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrell Tibbett Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Go with the Dewalt, you won"t be sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the corner Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Myself personaly I would buy the hawk.I'm on my second Dewalt now and if it dies Im going to change.You could buy it and if you don't like it you could sell it and would have no problem selling it.but if you do the wrong move your wife will remind you cause women don't forget. Good luck hope you make the right one.Damian LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 OK ! remember the arm doe's not raise up high out of the way with the hawk.I think blade changes are strange but that may be another quality saw i'm thinking of.You already have the look a like dewalt (delta) and loved it ?The hawk is not a double jointed arm like the dewalt ,less vibration.I suggest the dewalt sir.florida rules! LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I have both saws and I like both of them, I believe the Hawk to be a better saw. If the price were the same I would take the Hawk. The Hawk new is $1400 or more depending on the which model it is. Parts seem to not be a problem for either saw, at least that is what I have come up with so far. You can not go wrong with either one of them, unless there is some major problem within them. Let us know what you decided on. Dick heppnerguy LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hawk http://stores.bushtonhawkstore.com/ $1,200 new. You said "new" Hawk so I am assuming it is unused or only slightly used and is a BM20 or BM26 rather than the older but still good RBI Hawk 226vs. You can check out manuals here http://www.hawkwoodworkingtools.com/WebsitePages/Scroll-Saw-Manuals.html I have a Dewalt and an Excalibur and would love to have the BM20 which is American made. A warranty is only as good as the warranty repair shop and many of them do not know how to work on a scroll saw - I had that experience with my Dewalt which is why it is a backup. LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragax Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hawk LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grosa Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) There are two types of older hawk saws. The ones with the aluminum back arm supports have the direct motor connection (good one). The ones with the RED back arm supports are the ones to stay away from because they are run with a tube belt. Edited December 10, 2014 by grosa LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 There are two types of older hawk saws. The ones with the aluminum back arm supports have the direct motor connection (good one). The ones with the RED back arm supports are the ones to stay away from because they are run with a tube belt. Can you tell by the picture? Any other details I should look for? Are the back arm supports all red and easy to see? This is a 2008 saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grosa Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) . Edited December 11, 2014 by grosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grosa Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Larry, here is another really good quality scroll saw that most people do not know about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 There are two types of older hawk saws. The ones with the aluminum back arm supports have the direct motor connection (good one). The ones with the RED back arm supports are the ones to stay away from because they are run with a tube belt. Is this correct?????????? Good Hawk Saw Bad Hawk Saw grosa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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