Savannah Scroller Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Since I purchased the Ex-21 I decided that I need to invest in some kind of a dust collection system. What brands do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) I'd like to know what you intend to hook up to the dust collection. What I mean, is do you have a table saw, bandsaw, jointer, or are you just wanting dust collection for the scrollsaw? For just the scrollsaw, I can't say much because I do not have collection on it. I just have the blower and wear a dusk mask (Resp-O-Rator) most the time. From what I read, most shop vacuums are not really intended to run for extended periods of time. Have you looked at the set up tha Seyco sells? Too spendy for my budget, but if I could afford it..... Edited December 16, 2014 by Scrappile Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savannah Scroller Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yes I looked at the one at Seyco I agree its too pricely. But Yes all I want it for is the Scroll saw So you could be right Mabey I just need a good mask -the problem is a have to wear oxygen all the time so its hard to wear a mask unless I forgo wearing my Oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Santa( my wonderful wife) is giving me the Seyco rig for Christmas!.......I'll let you guys know if it is worth the money! Right now i use the Shop vac portable air cleaner and the shop vac in my work area every other blade change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjR Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I use a small shop vacuum that I manage to string around to the bottom of my DW 788! works fair. I also am always sweeping and vacuuming the floor. I do not think a perfect dust system exists! I used to be able to roll my saw outside and just work outside! Not able to do that now, from 2nd floor shop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 It can be done by switching from blower to vac.I have COPD .and my 788 is in my house 4' from my computer that I'm typing on .all DIY ,I don't know if your shop area will allow ,I'm not on oxygen yet but I fear it may come ,and will not need to change a thing ! I have posted pictures of my set up ,only one ,pm'ed for more info ,. makes a neat compact unit ,even added dremel -foredom dust free sanding and carving cabinet powered but same unit . vertually dust free ! This latest found clipon mag glass's thanks valued member ,allowing the removal of the big mag lite in other pix's you will see posted in the past ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 RJR"s right about a perfect system ,none exist that will fit or work in everybodies space in everybodies condition ,if there was no body could afford it ,I'll just say modifications and compromise are required , I have yet to see any other retrofit this dust free ,take up so little space and quiet ,because vac and vortex collector are remote and out side ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savannah Scroller Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Master S I like what you did I might try something like that. I have a couple of small vacuum units like that laying around doing nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 the dewalt 788 is the worst for dust collection,but can be remidyed with cardboard cowling around the saw stand and saw easy enough and connected to some sort of dust collector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Kevin ,I collect with vac, at the source on my 788 ,at the blade ,top and bottom ,my foot switch is on the center bottom brace ,directly under the blade ,no dust ever gets on my knee. My cabinet ,the heavy dust settle on the bottom ,the stationary vac pu gets all the fine airborne dust ,while it's still closed I have to vac the big stuff off the bottom ,before opening it up ,I can't collect at the source there because the source keeps moving as I move all over the piece ,still I get it all ,while still sitting in my chair. slip fit ,allows me to pull extra hose in to reach it all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Thomas Carl has a great system. I took a different approach and you may find something you can use in this old thread and may come up with your own Rube Goldberg system. http://www.scrollsawvillage.com/topic/7141-dust-collection/ I now have the newer EX21 (long story) but did not like its dust collection system so am using the same system I used with my old EX21. You have to work in your budget but as a minimum I would encourage you to use whatever shop vac you may have and invest in an Oneida Dust Deputy to put between the shop vac and your dust collection point - the Dust Deputy is unbelievable at capturing the dust before it gets to the shop vac so there is really no blow by from the vac and I rarely have to clean the shop vac filter. I would not be without the Dust Deputy. I use spirals almost exclusively so do end up with table top kerf dust. With non spirals I think you will find the blade will carry nearly all of the dust down to your below table collection. The point has been made about shop vacs not being designed to run continuously - I have a delay turn off outlet which turns the shop vac on when I turn the saw on and runs for seven seconds after I turn the saw off and then stops. Some shop vacs will have that built in. Whatever you do, do something to protect your lungs and your health. Although I think I have great dust collection, I still wear a mask to try and preserve an old man's breathing capacity. You can read all sorts of things about the danger of dust and although our bodies may be amazing, the effect of sawdust (and other types of dust) in the lungs is cumulative and by the time you realize you have a problem it is too late to reverse it. Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I tend to err on the side of getting all the dust you can. When i clean out my portable air cleaner i am always amazed at the amount of fine airborne dust that has been collected! Doug is right that the stuff we cannot see is the bad dust doing the harm. Good luck with what ever you choose to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonR Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I bought this one at HF. http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html The price is right and it works great. I housed it in an adjacent building because it is a little noisy.Works for me! Don R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I do not pretend to be the Sharpest Knife in the drawer ,How ever ,I will leave you with one final thought ,as I stated I am C a r l and I have C O P D , I am here to simply tell You ,When I can't BREATH , During that TIME ,NOTHING or NO ONE ,Matters ,IT'S ME and MY GOD ! , Until my Inhalers kick in ,I sincerely Hope none of YOU ever have that occur ,Do whatever you can to help your lungs last as long as possible . I am not looking for sympathy ,just stating facts. Do what ever you can ,while you can ! amazingkevin, keefie, tomsteve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have seen pictures of setups with a box fan with a filter on it. Is that worth the trouble? I've been thinking of going that route but not sure if it does enough to make it worth while. tomsteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have seen pictures of setups with a box fan with a filter on it. Is that worth the trouble? I've been thinking of going that route but not sure if it does enough to make it worth while. To each their own - I would do absolutely nothing which had the effect of putting more fine dust in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R&S scrollers Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 I also use the Dust Deputy. Have not had to clean my vac since. I also use a JDS air cleaner to collect the finer dust. Without some sort of dust collection system I believe you are asking for trouble. Reminds me of the car filter commercial "Pay me now or pay me later" Better to be safe than sorry. Always looking for better eye and breathing mask protection. Any ideas? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 I am with , Doug ,The closer to the source ,the more dust I can catch ,I want to vac the dust ,Blowing ,gets it out of your blade sight area ,thats the only good part .The effect it has otherwise putting that talcum power dust airborne is the MAJOR down side . When you have to stop and clean you mask or glasses should tell you ,wipeing the paste out of your eyes in the morning should be proof ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captlucky Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 I use a 3.5 gal shop vac. to clean the area a couple times a day and a box fan with a 6 micron filter to keep the air as clean as possible. I also have copd and the air filter seems to work for me. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Everybody ,has his own space considerations ,set up and limits .What ever works best for you thats what you should use if conditions change you can alter everything as is best for you and your pocketbook !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Kevin ,I collect with vac, at the source on my 788 ,at the blade ,top and bottom ,my foot switch is on the center bottom brace ,directly under the blade ,no dust ever gets on my knee. My cabinet ,the heavy dust settle on the bottom ,the stationary vac pu gets all the fine airborne dust ,while it's still closed I have to vac the big stuff off the bottom ,before opening it up ,I can't collect at the source there because the source keeps moving as I move all over the piece ,still I get it all ,while still sitting in my chair. slip fit ,allows me to pull extra hose in to reach it all . thanks CARL, i missed out on a 20" craftsman scroll saw with a grizzly dust collector for a hundred dollars last year. the guy never came thru.I would have been dust free and would have found away to make a dust cyclone.When this thread started i scoured the net for do it yourself pdf plans to construct your own dust deputy but no find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Look up fein style , I have 55gal drum before central 4" system for the big stuff in the shop ,and built 2- 5 gal buckets same set up on one my x-y bandsaw -1 on my 788 in the house uses std plumbing fittings and a spaced baffle ,easy to build .I Just simplified the manifold under the table and now have clearence for full tilt ,both ways , great suction ,even better than before ,I now think ,I could retrofit any scroll saw to be dust free.! tomsteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Great CARL,i just read everything about the dust filter and am impressed ,thank You.Will be starting to gather parts to build as soon as possiable. fein style/dustcollector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 I think you will be pleased the way they work ,I know I was impressed or I wouldn't have built three ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 You got that right CARL,Your the best for this info,11 page print out of detailed instructions plus 4 full size pictures of the inerds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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