smitty0312 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Got a quick question.......I'm going to be making an outdoor painted sign.......should I put a clear coat over the paint? If so......what's best? AlfrediaMum 1 Quote
Phantom Scroller Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Hammerite paint makes it look like a tile Dan and water proof but if it was me after painting with standard paint I would yacht vanish it because it's water proof for years. Roly Quote
dgman Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Hey Dan, I think the first question is what wood to use. It has to be a wood that will stand up to weather like redwood, ceder, white oak or even mahogany. Any paint or topcoat eventually will degrade. When that happens so will the wood if it not suitable. Quote
smitty0312 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Posted February 22, 2015 I was going to make it out of cabinet grade plywood.......trim edges out in oak.......it will be 2 sided......I know plywood is not the best for outdoor.........but trying to keep price down for customer.....they understand the difference. Quote
Fishman Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 I made a birdhouse about 5 years ago, perhaps even a little longer and it's holding up great outdoors. I used Krylon Indoor/Outdoor spray paint, and Cedar wood. Generally clear coats just don't hold up in the weather and sun, so I didn't use one. Not sure if this helps you or not, but figured I would at least try. Quote
Rob Roy Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 I was going to make it out of cabinet grade plywood.......trim edges out in oak.......it will be 2 sided......I know plywood is not the best for outdoor.........but trying to keep price down for customer.....they understand the difference. Would MARINE or Exterior ply be too expensive Dan?????. Rob Roy. Hammerite paint makes it look like a tile Dan and water proof but if it was me after painting with standard paint I would yacht vanish it because it's water proof for years. Roly Roly you might not believe this. A while ago I bought a small can of YACHT VARNISH and when I was reading back of the can to check the re coating time I saw the statement "DO NOT USE FOR BOATS". No joke, Roly for a change,. So it DOESN'T always do what it says on the can. . Rob Roy. Quote
amazingkevin Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 I've been interested in"UV protection paint top coat" for signs i did.But the customers never wanted to spend any more than the minimum for what they wanted. Quote
LarryEA Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 It's a matter of dignity, 'Yacht Varnish' is not for boats. Rob Roy 1 Quote
Steve Curtis Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Hello, I have used Shallac, Not sure on the spelling. But that has worked for me. I know there are so many of them out there. Steve Quote
JustLarry Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 A good quality oil-based exterior paint without the color added is what I would use. Before you write this off a "he done inhaled too much saw dust and flipped his lid" read information at this link. http://askhlm.com/Articles/ArticleViewPage/tabid/75/ArticleId/26/Paint-On-A-Clear-Finish.aspx For more finish information here is more http://askhlm.com/Articles.aspx Larry Quote
tomsteve Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 If you want the most durable, longest,lasting finish,,go with an exterior acrylic latex. Ie- clear paint Sherwin A-100 base( untinted) is,pretty durable. There's some write ups on why an acrylic latex is,a better choice over polys and even varnishes for exterior applications as you're looking at. JustLarry 1 Quote
Phantom Scroller Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Would MARINE or Exterior ply be too expensive Dan?????. Rob Roy. Roly you might not believe this. A while ago I bought a small can of YACHT VARNISH and when I was reading back of the can to check the re coating time I saw the statement "DO NOT USE FOR BOATS". No joke, Roly for a change,. So it DOESN'T always do what it says on the can. . Rob Roy. Yep you need to buy the good stuff not the rubbish from super stores. not for boats haa haa. Roly Rob Roy 1 Quote
Rob Roy Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Yep you need to buy the good stuff not the rubbish from super stores. not for boats haa haa. Roly Annoying thing was Roly I bought it from a PAINT dealer, and when I mentioned it was not to be used on boats, the answer was "well don't use it on yer boat then pal". I gave up. . Rob Roy. Edited February 23, 2015 by Rob Roy Phantom Scroller 1 Quote
Phantom Scroller Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Annoying thing was Roly I bought it from a PAINT dealer, and when I mentioned it was not to be used on boats, the answer was "well don't use it on yer boat then pal". I gave up. . Rob Roy. Try this it's amazing http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ronseal-YVS250-250ml-Exterior-Varnish/dp/B001GU8A50/ref=pd_sim_diy_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=19EGN6JGEA74VAVYJB17 Edited February 23, 2015 by Phantom Scroller Quote
heppnerguy Posted February 24, 2015 Report Posted February 24, 2015 Would MARINE or Exterior ply be too expensive Dan?????. Rob Roy. Roly you might not believe this. A while ago I bought a small can of YACHT VARNISH and when I was reading back of the can to check the re coating time I saw the statement "DO NOT USE FOR BOATS". No joke, Roly for a change,. So it DOESN'T always do what it says on the can. . Rob Roy. This reminds my of the caution written on tooth paste tubes. Something like, 'if you swallow any of this product, call poison contol" Not kinding check it out for yourselves Dick heppnerguy Quote
Lucky2 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Posted February 24, 2015 Dan, In the past I've used Spar marine varnish, or, a clear drying epoxy. Both stand up to the weather, and will last a fairly long time. None of them are going to last forever, but, if you recoat them about every three years or so, they will probably last longer than the person you made them for. Len Quote
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