Multifasited Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) DUST FREE SCROLLING ,I have been talking about it for a long time ,I have been trying to condense in to a simple format to illustrate the effectiveness of the system .I decided to do the test cutting sheet rock materials , The ultra-fines are the dangerous dust ,that you breath ,the heavy chunky stuff ,makes a mess ,but is too big to breath ,unless you are real determined and just plain stupid ! My system gets them all, because it catches them at the source, at the BLADE TOP AND BOTTOM! For the test I made a sheet rock sandwich that is composed off a piece of green sheet rock ½†covered with blue tape. Sealing the sheet rock to prevent edge crumbling, so all that gets on the table was from the actual cutting of the material. Trying to demonstrate only the dust collection of the process making a video is only to show the capabilities of the collection of dust , time is critical ,when making a video , But I hope it conveys the abilities of the system ,and will show ,just how dust free it is possible to scroll , for those of you who have dust issues ,or just want to be able to scroll in the house without all the mess ! Posting on U-TUBE. All this video and u-tube posting is all new to me! So cut me some slack, All of this is DIY by me, there are a lot of pictures of different stages and improvements, in the process, up to now! Posted on SSV and my gallery and on SS WW &C The new light assembly, shown eliminated the shadows, the smaller light couldn’t, and tips to provide great light for us bottom loaders. The lamp is locked and UN locked with a jam nut, making it stationary or adjustable. I will attempt to describe the system while showing it, then turn on the vac. cut half the pc. Show upper and lower blade areas for dust! Then shut off vac. and show cut the second half .w/o any blowers ,fans or Other aids and see the difference ,To this point ,I have seen no posts of any one doing the test I posted weeks ago! My test here ,should keep all the dust from blowing all over ,if not ,I will shut it down to protect my computer (4 ‘ away ) ! I will be using a #5 FD Spiral for the test! I hope this will show approx. the ultra-fine dust your saw would create in a couple hrs. Of scrolling less all the big stuff also produced when scrolling. Constructive comments and Question Welcome! I’m sorry I have not figured out how to put hyperlinks in yet. But go onto YouTube and do a search for (My home made complete dust free system by Carl Jacobs ) My Best as always! Carl __________________ "Home Of The Dust Free Scroll Saw" Remember (IT is WHAT it IS)( Unless YOU change IT!) Edited April 24, 2015 by Multifasited amazingkevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry A. Blakely Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Is this it? Multifasited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 That is amazing, wow Multifasited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 I need this! :thumbs: Multifasited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrylee Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 It look like you in a operation room,is too much for me ! Multifasited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) It look like you in a operation room,is too much for me ! I have already been in one ,major reason why ,don't wish it on anybody ! Nice though huh! Edited April 25, 2015 by Multifasited Rob Roy and tomsteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Guy Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Nice set up thanks for showing. Thank you Lorenzo also. Larry A. Blakely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 A real engineering feat. I look at the bracket for the light ,magnifying glass and upper blower and that alone is more than my pea brain can comprehend A truly remarkable and extremely well thought out. Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work and well thought out answer to the dust problem on the scroll saw. I hope it helps many others to take care of their dust problem. As for me, I will never be able to figure out this system. Way to complicated for me though Dick heppnerguy Multifasited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) A real engineering feat. I look at the bracket for the light ,magnifying glass and upper blower and that alone is more than my pea brain can comprehend A truly remarkable and extremely well thought out. Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work and well thought out answer to the dust problem on the scroll saw. I hope it helps many others to take care of their dust problem. As for me, I will never be able to figure out this system. Way to complicated for me though Dick heppnerguy You underestimate your skills & abilities ,works like so many things ,you start at the source of the dust and ask (YOURSELF) (How) can I extract it ,I really believe I could adapt (any) saw to this system .Once that seed is planted ,your brain will work on different ways to accomplish it ( Can't) should be replaced with (HOW!) one hole at a time! I have seen your work ,Desire is more important than an engineering degree .IT is simply plumbing of air flow in reverse . If you want some help ,PM me . Sorry your so far away ,I would invite you over and in short order we would have a great system on your saw ! Thank you for your kind words ,It is much easier than you think ! MY best ! Carl Edited April 25, 2015 by Multifasited heppnerguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobscroll Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Hi Carl, You are an inspiration to us all, Thank you for your efforts and tenacity on this project! I find it's the best way for me to learn anything, Is to see it in action as you have shown us all, Thank you again Carl, Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Hi Carl, You are an inspiration to us all, Thank you for your efforts and tenacity on this project! I find it's the best way for me to learn anything, Is to see it in action as you have shown us all, Thank you again Carl, Bob Thank You for the kind words .I too am a visual person,I hope ,there is something in there that helps those interested in dust control either because of health needs or allowing them to bring inside so they can do there hobby in the comfort of there home yr. round ! Thanks again .Carl bobscroll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 You underestimate your skills & abilities ,works like so many things ,you start at the source of the dust and ask (YOURSELF) (How) can I extract it ,I really believe I could adapt (any) saw to this system .Once that seed is planted ,your brain will work on different ways to accomplish it ( Can't) should be replaced with (HOW!) one hole at a time! I have seen your work ,Desire is more important than an engineering degree .IT is simply plumbing of air flow in reverse . If you want some help ,PM me . Sorry your so far away ,I would invite you over and in short order we would have a great system on your saw ! Thank you for your kind words ,It is much easier than you think ! MY best ! Carl Carl, When you put it that way (one hole at a time) I start to understand your way of thinking. It really is just a matter of recognizing that you have a problem that you want to change and then you first try this ( which is represented by the first hole) , and if that doesn't get the job done you think about a little different approach and try that (the second) hole. "there has to be a better way". and then you try another angle ( the next hole). Eventually you find a way to solve your problem. Everyone has a different way of looking at things so no two people would come up with the same conclusion or way to answer the problem in exactly the same way, but the end results are the same. Six scroller can cut the same pattern and how they go about it will all be a little different; wood choices,blades used, where one starts and ends cutting the piece but the end results will look the same. I guess all this rambling just is mr E trying to point out that 'the light came on in my head' and I understand what you are trying to tell me Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Dick, No whale is too big to Eat ,one bite at a time ,JUST REQUIRES A LOT OF REFRIGERATION ,and a serious love of WHALE ! It took me over three yrs. to get to this point (Eat some ,froze the rest in small chunks )I had a working system for over two yrs. Tuning ,tweeking & adjusting took the longest ! Like EDISON ,I can tell you 2000 ways that didn't pass the test of time !My personality ,demands multiple projects constantly to keep my mind happy and off negative things we all have ! Thanks for your interest and understanding . My best ! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I love what you have done. Very ingenius. My only thought is that I don't want to hear a vacuum running all the time. I go out to my shop for the quiet and solitude it offers me. I am going to try a box fan with a furnace filter on it. I love to hear the saw and the cutting of the wood and as your video shows, the air flow drowns out your voice. But, I must hand it to your for your diligence. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Ray! I too hear that sound in the video ,but remember the mic picks up those sounds much better than voice. The issue here is TOTAL DUST CAPTURE, now that,THAT has been ACCOMPLISHED, there may be a way to quiet down the sound,(more WHALE to eat.) With the choice between the Marginal Sound and DUST FREE or DUST and MESS and filters, box fans & a little quieter, you know my choice ,yours is totally up to you ! Please remember, I ain't selling a damn thing. No plans,parts or gadgets! I appreciate your kind words and interest,and look forward to seeing some of the scroll saw projects you are working on ! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 My comment wasn't meant to upset you. I just don't like noise. I too will be looking for an answer to the dust problem. If I come up with something, I'll sure let everybody know. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Carl a space suit gives you dust free scrolling. Alright calm down. just joking. I'd love to have a quiet dust free shed but it's never going to happen unless I put ear plugs in and a jet engine behind a filter. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 My comment wasn't meant to upset you. I just don't like noise. I too will be looking for an answer to the dust problem. If I come up with something, I'll sure let everybody know. Ray I really was not upset ,Just stating facts, My old combo.camera has no wind filter,like most actual video cameras do,amplifing the air turbulace sound on the video. Doing all this DIY as cheaply as possible, recycling components I had or could get cheaply ,does have limits . Very pleased with the DUST removal abilities, I my case Dust capture is far more important, than very QUIET ! Sorry if it came across that way, Looking forward to seeing some of your scroll work ! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Roly ! I am calm as a cucumber, Now that the system has stood the test of time ,I may be able to reverse engr.the vac.sound to achieve lower noise level,time will tell (MORE WHALE TO EAT),I have a large high speed blower from a bounce house water slide I salvaged and redone, unsure if it has enough cfm when fed to a filtered catch trap to be able to have enough draw, I was trying to stay with stuff everybody had access to that actually worked! Keep the faith ,Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 E-mail response has been amazing ,getting to them as fast as I can ! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well the latest modification of using a Large recycled blower ,Is much quieter and has plenty of pull ,adapted to replace vac, with converted blower a great success, Everything Else remains the same ,now all you hear is the actual mild suction sound . Now I have a Quiet Dust Free Scroll Saw . The whale has been consumed ! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Carl I am confident there is more whale out there for you and that you appetite has only been temporarily satiated. You would get bored without whale which needed consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I love it !! Your right ,But there are so many WHALES and so little time, NOT ALL, are ,wrapped around my scroll saw !! Good one DOUG! Thanks I needed a good Chuckle ! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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