gator Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 have never gotten bad blades but think i have some 3/0 spirals. was wondering if you guys have gotten any. i know they don't last long but i have use a lot over the years and seems i have a batch that break way to quick. same wood speeds feed rates but just not holding up to standard rates . Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Gator i thought it was just me!.....I thought i was pushing too hard I slowed down the saw and started using a 2/0 if i was cutting anything thicker than 1/4 inch.......I am still not sure if it was the FD blades or me......Have not had the problem on a regular basis!.....I am still watching! WayneMahler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepy Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I had some several years ago. Called Mike and he sent some replacements that worked fine. WayneMahler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamminjack Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Funny you should mention this. My last order from Teddy Bear the blades just didn;t seem the same. I thought it was me. They didn;t seem to cut like I have been used to. Do you think that they are the same Flying Dutchman blades we have been getting all these years. or have they changed and are knock offs. Interesting.... Mike retires, new company takes over. Blade problems start..... I for one will definitely keep a closer eye on this situation. Gator I am glad you brought this up. I thought it was just me.. Scrolling Steve, Kris Martinson, WayneMahler and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I experienced this yesterday in my shop with FD-UR #5. Some cut like going through butter, others broke as if way over heated. I have ordered from Mike for years and never had a problem. I'm wondering if it is just a bad batch? I'm a die hard FD person so I will also be following this very closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Thats why I didn't say name didn't won't to influence anyone but yes Flying Dutchman from new place did saying the name . i dont think its anything intentional but see a difference Edited June 5, 2015 by gator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I brought that same problem to Mike a while back, been having problems with FD 2/0 and FD #1 blades breaking off when I feed them through the hole on my fingertips about one inch from the top, and still hasve the same problem, not really sure if its the quality of the blades or not. While at the SSWC show this year I purchased olson #2/0 just to try them out, and I did and had no problem. And the one thing that ticks me off is when cutting the blades break also. Just my 2 cents. edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) I have ordered some FD blades. The last I got of Olson's just didn't cut right, The new blades cut like they were dull I know they were new I just opened a new batch of 12 and they were the same, so i decided to got to FD. I am talking about flat blades Just to let you know it's not just F D blades, I figured that Olson got some bad steel. I didn't buy these blades from The Wooden teddy bear I bought them from Wood crafts. store. Edited June 4, 2015 by ike WayneMahler, Gonzo and Scrolling Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigWag Workshop Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Good Day Folks! I just put in the order below a few weeks ago, and I am not having any issues with them. Flying Dutchman - Spiral Flat/End Scrollsaw Blades - FD-SP-FE No. 5 Flying Dutchman - Spiral Flat/End Scrollsaw Blades - FD-SP-FE No. 3 Flying Dutchman - Ultra Reverse - FD-UR No. 5 Flying Dutchman - New Spiral -FD-NS No. 3/0 -Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Latimer Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Wow I'm new to the world so I thought it was me. I've only been scrolling for about 5 weeks, but yesterday I opened a new shipment of fd ur #5 and broke around 8 of them when I hadn't broken a single one from my first shipment. Happy to see its not me. I had a couple of them left from my first shipment and went back to that and I was fine Edited June 5, 2015 by Klatimer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 okay that's what i was wondering they may be getting cheaper grade than mike if that is a option dont know but never looked at other suppliers cause i have been so happy but may need to change suppliers to find quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Disclaimer, I seldom use FD blades. I don't believe a seller deliberately sold you bad blades U-n-l-e-s-s they switched to a cheaper product and left the name. The bad experiences should be brought to the sellers attention and they should be pro-responsive. Kris Martinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I hate to complain in resturants and definetly don't want to start with blades .I give and take not everything is as it's suposed to be it happens.At 30 cents a blade i'll eat it and have a good face with the supplyer.All my years with mike theres been a couple that maybe missed the heat treating,no biggy! WayneMahler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 i agree kevin just wanting to know if anyone else had seen a problem , looks like its not just me . but i am working my way through a gross and not getting better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Because of hand tremors, (a fancy way to say that my hands shake,) I rarely use anything but FD UR # 5. Most of my work is 1/4" solid oak & BB ply. From what I am reading on this, and other sites, I think that most of the time you folks could get by very nicely with # 5s. I assume that because of the extra size, you would have less breakage. I break about TWO BLADES A YEAR, but our garage is not heated, so the saw collects dust in the Iowa winter. jerry Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I would let the supplier know so they can check it out. If they are getting bad blades produced for them and they are not aware of them getting to their customers they cannot get the problem corrected. I do not worry if I get one or two bad ones now and them but if I get a doz or so I will let them know. I would think they would be happy to make it right. Larry Kris Martinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) heads up went to mikes site aka teddy bear to get email address to send them a email and saw "ORDER NOW PRICE INCREASE JULY" didnt see that coming ? right........... Edited June 6, 2015 by gator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Will wait for resolution ,enough booboo's to all around some one should hear the other side's plan,if any before I need to order ,no issues with current FD's . Please keep us informed ,be ashame to have to switch suppliers . Thanks for the post ! WayneMahler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton717 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I have been ordering FD blades from the wooden teddy bear for several years and have never had any problems with their blades. once in a great while I would find a blade that didn't seem to cut like the one I just replaced. I will continue to buy from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) I just order a gross of #5 fd-UR. I'll let you know how they work out. Not in the trian of thought of switching suppliers at this time. everyone gets a bad batch now and then, Edited June 6, 2015 by WayneMahler Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) It's all down to the raw material and where it comes from mainly Russia and who does the heat treatment, you get bad batches in all metals. 1. who's making them 2. have they just made the man redundant 3. did the man leave 4. is the guy doing it now from McDONALD'S just as well we fly around in mainly composites now. Roly Edited June 6, 2015 by Phantom Scroller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I would not laugh too Hard at the thought of composite blade coming to market ,all a matter of resin costs ,I have personally Injection molded plastic that is harder than ( Ti) titanium ,for bearings in jet engines . That stuff was $ 800.00 # .Just a matter of time and Money ! Supply and demand ,when it is justifiable ,it will show up ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I had what must have been a bad batch last year of FDUR 2/0 would break when tightened thumb screw but no problems with FDUR 1,3 or 5 Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneleggimp Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) heads up went to mikes site aka teddy bear to get email address to send them a email and saw "ORDER NOW PRICE INCREASE JULY" didnt see that coming ? right........... I just got an order of FD-TC blades from Wooden Teddy Bear DBA Mike's Workshop and they included the new July prices. For the TC (Two-Way Cut) blades I ordered the price will go up 5 cent a dozen from $2.95 a dozen presently to $3.00 as of July 1. Not a huge hike. HOWEVER in comparing further some other blade styles increased in price by 15 cents a dozen or even more Edited June 8, 2015 by oneleggimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I have been buying most of my blades from Wooden Teddy Bear for several years and have been happy in the past.. 5 cents a dozen isn't going to break my budget, I hope Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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