heppnerguy Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hi everyone. I remember, once more reading here about the best way to attach a pattern to be cut. If you happen to see my post there, you might remember that I stated I was once a painter's tape and glue stick kind of guy, and stated that I am very slow to try something different when I like what is working for me. Then, on day, I decided to try the spray a pattern and put it directly onto the wood. I found three things that I really did not expect to happen when I did this. First of all, the pattern did not come loose from the wood at any time and I was cutting a piece of fret work that had a lot of small holes and I had been having problems with the pattern coming loose in places when I was in the middle of cutting them, with this method I have not had that problem Second, When I was finished cutting the piece and it was time to remove the pattern from the wood. I got a small sponge rubber brush and used it to apply a light coating of paint thinner directly to the face of the pattern. I waited about 20 seconds and then I got started to see if I could peel off my pattern. well as I began to remove it, I was pleasantly surprised to find that is almost fell off the wood by itself. The complete and whole pattern was unattached in less than a minute third. Now to see about getting rid of all that residue that I suspected would be left behind. The only place that I encountered any residue was where I had used some tape to combine two parts of the pattern together and the paint thinner could not get through it to the glue. I have found if I try to remove the pattern too soon, the paint thinner has not had time to finish it's work of resolving the glue, this may leave a little residue behind. I simple use a clean cloth and wipe my pattern as soon as i remove it and then if there is any residue left, the little bit of paint thinner that is on the wood is enough to remove any left behind. Today I cut a pattern using the above mentioned technique and decide to show you how the pattern is removed in it's entirety. Keep in mind you are not looking at the finished cut piece but just the paper pattern that I removed when I was finished cutting out my piece. You can see the pattern maker's name on the paper pattern I also remember how Paul, talked about taking 2 1/2 hours to remove the painters tape from his howling wolf, I believe it was. With this method I can accomplish the same thing Paul was trying to do, but in less than a minute Dick heppnerguy ChelCass, Scrolling Steve and Scrappile 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hey Dick, I'm glad it works for you! That's exactly how I do it except I use odorless mineral spirits. Same thing as paint thinner except a little more refined. I use a spray bottle to spritz the MS onto the pattern. After removing the pattern, I wipe the wood down with a clean soft cloth. No blue painters tape for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordster Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hi Dick, thanks for the lesson...I have always used tape, but Iam going go give the paint thinner method a shot.I have fumbled through my scrap box looking for a piece of a project still stuck to the tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I was going to joke about it, but that's no joke! Pretty amazing. Ok Dick, there has to be one bad side to this. Like ....??? odor, latex glove supply, owing shares in pain thinner....oops paint thinner. Half seriously, "You could use the pattern again." Break a record and use it three, four, five.... Just kidding. Poor Paul, I bet he later found 'one' tiny tiny tiny piece of blue tape in between a fret cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Mix acetone in with it for an even better residue remove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWSUDEKUM Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Nice Dick. Blue painters tape can also be removed with thinner or the application of heat from a heat gun. All are good tips. DW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 No clear packing tape either???????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 No clear packing tape either???????????????? Larry, I have used additional packing tape when I first started cutting but I found that It would sometimes college sawdust. So I have never gone back to it.. Never really felt a need to either Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Well Dick I use Re-positional spray glue and 2" sellotape on top of pattern and it peels off a treat, hence why it's called re-positional . Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamminjack Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Very well put Dick, as always you explained it completely. Thanks for sharing. I also tried something new to me, maybe not new for other villagers. I have always been a blue tape guy, spray adhesive on pattern. and then clear tape over pattern. I recently tried buying clear contact paper from wal-mart. Cut a piece put it on the wood, then applied the pattern on to the contact paper . It works like a charm.... Don't even have to use clear packaging tape. Something in the contact paper seems to lubricate the blade. When finished cutting, it removes very easily, and doesn't leave any residue. It saves me a ton of time, very happy with the results. Happy Fathers Day to all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 The only advantage to the painter's tape is the blade lubrication. If you are using spiral blades you don't need it because I have never experienced blade burn with a spiral blade. But you can get it using straight blades. I have done tests with it and at least proven to myself that the tape greatly helps prevents burning. This is especially the case when cutting something like 1/2" cherry. I definitely prefer to not use blue tape but I will when I feel it will help. The clear packing tape I quit using totally. And just to set the record straight, if the Paul you are referring to that took two hours to remove the tape/pattern on my last picture is this Paul, it was a roaring leopard, not a howling wolf!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Paul, you should know mea little better by now and understand that my memory fails me way too often. Like the name of your last scrolled piece and mixing up Roly and Sully. Heck that is the very reason that Saron makes me carry my wallet, not because it has any money in it, but rather because it has my dirivers license in it with my photo and name! that way I won't have to try to remember my name if I get lost LOL I know that this pattern cutting is not the only one or even the best one for everyone. I was just sharing why I prefer it and also a reminder to everyone that there just may be a better way or a different way to do something and for me to take that leap into something new turned out to be good for me. I think I have only burned an item with a blade, one time. That was when I tried some packaging tape but really did not like that much so I gave that idea up. Maybe I did not give it enough of a chance and if I do discover that I come upon a problem like this again, I may try it again. I also enjoy the way I am doing my pattern now is because it really does not require me to purchase anything extra. I keep paint thinner on hand anyway and it takes only a very small amount to do the job here. I want everyone to know that the one thing I learned by changing to this method is that I need to stay open to trying new things at all times. I hope that this post encourages others to share their ideas with others here. You may be alone with your idea but more likely you may discover that there are many others that share your way or ideas or you may end up picking up a tip that might make your ideas even better for you. Keep on sharing and keep understanding that everyone has an idea or method or blade that works best for them. I was just sharing what I have found works best for me, at this time. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Paul, you should know mea little better by now and understand that my memory fails me way too often. Like the name of your last scrolled piece and mixing up Roly and Sully. Heck that is the very reason that Saron makes me carry my wallet, not because it has any money in it, but rather because it has my dirivers license in it with my photo and name! that way I won't have to try to remember my name if I get lost LOL I know that this pattern cutting is not the only one or even the best one for everyone. I was just sharing why I prefer it and also a reminder to everyone that there just may be a better way or a different way to do something and for me to take that leap into something new turned out to be good for me. I think I have only burned an item with a blade, one time. That was when I tried some packaging tape but really did not like that much so I gave that idea up. Maybe I did not give it enough of a chance and if I do discover that I come upon a problem like this again, I may try it again. I also enjoy the way I am doing my pattern now is because it really does not require me to purchase anything extra. I keep paint thinner on hand anyway and it takes only a very small amount to do the job here. I want everyone to know that the one thing I learned by changing to this method is that I need to stay open to trying new things at all times. I hope that this post encourages others to share their ideas with others here. You may be alone with your idea but more likely you may discover that there are many others that share your way or ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Oh, I thought maybe my scrolling job was so bad you couldn't really tell if it was a wolf or a leopard!! My wife prefers I forget my wallet, so if I get lost there is less chance I will find my way home!! Yep I definitely prefer not using tape. But like I said I feel there are times it may be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I use repositionable spray glue, it doesn't fully dry so when it's time to remove the pattern it just peels off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywoodmaster Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I use the same method except I keep a cookie sheet/ jelly roll pan with mineral spirits and turn the project face down for about 1 minute. Remove the pattern then hang the piece to dry. This also helps condition the wood pours to help it take stain evenly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 You are right, it does require a little time to dry after removing the ops treen but because I am not spending a lot of time removing the painters tape from my fret work any longer so I do not mind waiting a little while to let the paint thinner to dry before I apply my chosen finish Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I do not mind waiting for the paint thinner to dry as I know I have done the hard and tedious part almost effortlessly. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I still use painters tape on a lot of my projects. Because I like to get my projects ready while watching TV I don't want to use spray glue in the house.. but if I am doing a Fretwork with a lot of small holes in;it I will use spray glue and take it off with paint thinner I am now working on a fretwork shelf and using the spray Glue and paint thinner system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton717 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I have always just attached the pattern to wood as you described. Just spray glue and no tape. I have never had a problem removing it from the wood. Saves time and some expenses, don't have to keep buying all the extra tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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