hotshot Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) I'll just post this initially as a tease, then we can discuss if this is a valid/safe upgrade. Those of you that know what this is might be a little shocked. I'm outright excited at the possibilities. Seen another post on knobs here recently that got me thinking. ------Randy Edited September 21, 2015 by hotshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Tell us more I'll just post this initially as a tease, then we can discuss if this is a valid/safe upgrade. Those of you that know what this is might be a little shocked. I'm outright excited at the possibilities. ------Randy QuickClampOnEX.JPG tell us more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 ?? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwi6ytuqkIfIAhUMGpIKHURaBHA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seyco.com%2Fqcr.pdf&usg=AFQjCNE-rGfXzDSftTGCST8Oe34OshbEYQ&cad=rja Larry amazingkevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted September 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) So the clamp pictured in my photo is not Seyco, it is the Hegner original. I wish Seyco had displayed the knob in your link as a photograph so I could see if it is identical. On that page, it gives the links to the page to order it (http://www.seyco.com/excparts.html), but there is no knurled knob there. If Seyco sold the Hegner version, that would be indeed be awesome. All I'm seeing on their page is a plastic knob with ridges, definately not the same thing. Unfortunately, I have also used a similar plastic knob, and it isn't anywhere near the same experience. The Hegner Quickclamp knob is my favorite thing about my Hegner, but if it works in the EX, then I get to have the best of both worlds. If Seyco is re-selling the Hegner version, better yet. I suspect they are not, but I'll have to email them to see. The Hegner clamp weighs a little more than plastic, but didn't seem to increase vibration too much. I sent a email to Seyco to see if they still sell a knurled knob. -------Randy Edited September 21, 2015 by hotshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Nice knurled knob Randy might have one made at work. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Roly, it's not just a knurled knob that you would need made, but, you would also have to have the screw end made to accept the small swivel tip that the scroll saw clamp screws have. That's the only thing, that keeps a person from using a regular type screw. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Roly, it's not just a knurled knob that you would need made, but, you would also have to have the screw end made to accept the small swivel tip that the scroll saw clamp screws have. That's the only thing, that keeps a person from using a regular type screw. Len Cheer Len nothing that a aircraft engineer couldn't design and make one thinks, we love a challenge a bit of thread making and turning that's what apprentices are for aren't they. Roly Rob Roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) I got the Hegner knob sent from the UK about three years back and personally don't like it. When you try to tighten the clamp a bit much the knurls kind of tore into my thumb and fore finger, so got the Hegner Quick-clamp lever sent over as well and liked it far better, knurled knobs are a pain. ***Merlin*** Edited September 21, 2015 by merlin Jim Finn and Phantom Scroller 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I have had my Ex21 for 17 months and still using all original parts........As kevin would say....If it is not broken , do not fix it. sawdust junkie, Phantom Scroller and Lucky2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I got the Hegner knob sent from the UK about three years back and personally don't like it. When you try to tighten the clamp a bit much the knurls kind of tore into my thumb and fore finger, so got the Hegner Quick-clamp lever sent over as well and liked it far better, knurled knobs are a pain. ***Merlin*** Merlin send it back to the UK and tell them to file it down. Roly oneleggimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted September 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Different strokes for different folks I guess. To me, the Knurled knobs are much faster, easier on my hands and easier to deal with than the T-Knobs, so much so, that I'm very very excited about the possibility. And besides, when someone asks what saw I am using, I can tell them I have a Hegner/Excalibur Hybrid ------Randy Edited September 21, 2015 by hotshot Phantom Scroller and Jim Finn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I have mixed emotions on it. I do like the knob on the Hegner, but I would hesitate to put it on a Ex. My concern is the EX has aluminum clamps and the bolts used on the knobs are steel. It would in crease the likelihood that a person might put too much pressure on the knob and strip the threads in the clamp. That is partially why I don't make or buy the bigger round knobs that are available. I also to not mind, nor have any trouble with the knob that is standard on the Ex. That being said, I do find this interesting and am anxious to see what the end results is. Scrolling Steve, NC Scroller and Lucky2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well, heard back from Ray and they haven't sold the knurled knob for about 10 years. They were too expensive to make. So, looks like the Hegner knob might be my only choice if I want to go that route. I have a basic question about clamping screws in general. If I were going to try to find one at a site like http://www.jwwinco.com/products/section8/, what terminology would I look for. "Clamping Screws" get me close, but I don't know the term for the roatating tip. I've seen shoes, pads, and other terms, but most of those are swivel. Anyone here familiar with the terminology of the style of Clamp Screws with rotating tips like are used in the scroll saw? -------Randy oneleggimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Randy, try clamp screw with swivel tip, I don't know if that will do anything for you, but it's different terminology. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 This of any help Randy cick Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 You might call Advance Machinery and talk to them. Maybe they can get you one without the clamp or direct you to where you could get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Thanks Merlin, that is close-ish, but we need one without the swivel tip. The tip needs to rotate, but the surface need to stay perpendicular to the stud. In stud/thread size I believe the stud is an M6-1. The actual costs of these seem to fairly inexpensive, if I can just find the right stud with the same tip. I suspect I will probably just go with the Advanced Knob eventually, but I'm in no hurry, so it is fun enough trying to find the right part. Only thing that I don't like about the Hegner knob it is that the stud on it is longerthan it needs to be for the EX, so it leaves that weight hanging out there further than needed. --------Randy Edited September 24, 2015 by hotshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted September 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) I heard back from Advanced, and you can buy the knob without clamp. I'll call Monday to order so I can put the knurled back on the Hegner. I'll also verify that the price quoted is Knob/stud/pad, it would suck if I just got the actual knob for that: Part # HQK-01: $23.98. Best Ex Upgrade Ever :-) Edited September 26, 2015 by hotshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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