LarryEA Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Has a conversation with another member and just thought I'd ask. Maybe your saw doesn't need grease. As for Delta's and Dewalts, I suggest they be greased as soon as you get them. Grease other saw's, I don't know. I greased both my saws ... before I heard a noise, I did notice they are quiter, even my 'new' 40-694. What saw do you have? Edited February 4, 2016 by LarryEA OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWSUDEKUM Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I took mine totally apart when I first got it and lubed it. I totally believe in lube. DW OCtoolguy and LarryEA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Larry, doesn't doing this cause the sawdust and wood chips to build up on the parts you greased? I can see using a dry lubricant, they don't attract the dust and dirt. Len OCtoolguy and LarryEA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Larry, doesn't doing this cause the sawdust and wood chips to build up on the parts you greased? I can see using a dry lubricant, they don't attract the dust and dirt. Len Good point.............Most of the grease points on the Delta are under sealed cover. You are correct on those places 'I' greased that are in the open. These are the upper and lower blade arms. Better grease there than no grease? I'll watch those. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I am the other member Larry was discussing this with, I think. As I stated in another thread, I would be great if someone could do a tutorial and put in the library here of the process of greasing the bearings. There are a lot of DeWalt and Delta owners here. I do not know about it I have never done it. I have never heard this mentioned regarding the Excalibur saws. I know little about bearings, but what bearings I see in mine, I think they are sealed bearings, can't grease them(?). Kris Martinson, OCtoolguy and LarryEA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 My Delta has oil ports for the pivot points which I fill every few weeks. The only other place I can think of greasing are the swivel connections in the back. The manual does not say to grease them and the saw is pretty quiet so I may check them but will probably not grease them. OCtoolguy and LarryEA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Paul, people are generally talking about greasing the pivot points and bearings on their machines. And if there are any bushings, they grease them also. I don't know what type of grease others use, but, on an older Delta scroll saw I used to use a sticky grease that was red in color. I don't grease sealed bearings, I don't know of any reason why a person would want to, they're sealed. If a sealed bearing needs grease, the bearing is worn out and should be changed out instead of greasing it. Len LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 My Delta has oil ports for the pivot points which I fill every few weeks. The only other place I can think of greasing are the swivel connections in the back. The manual does not say to grease them and the saw is pretty quiet so I may check them but will probably not grease them. Hey Dan, where are those oil ports? Can you oil without removing nuts and bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Here is the link to see everything you ever wanted to know about greasing and replacing bearings in a DeWalt scroll saw. this is part 1 of 4 parts and when you get through viewing this, you will know more about your saw than you might have ever expected you would Dick heppnerguy barb.j.enders, NC Scroller, OCtoolguy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I grease the bearings on my Ex30 approximately every 20 hours of use with a white lithium grease. The other pivot points I oil after each use with a light machine oil. I believe the newer saws now have sealed bearings. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I use wd40 silicon spray on every part of mine. Just saying. Roly Kris Martinson, LarryEA and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hey Dan, where are those oil ports? Can you oil without removing nuts and bolts? Larry, the ports are on the left side of the machine. I guess I forgot to say it's a Delta P-20. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Pellow Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ron, I have never greased my EX30, and it's an older (12 year old) model. I hope that I can find the manual and figure out where and how to apply grease . OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm a pretty big fan of following the manufactures instructions regarding lubrication. I have a new model EX-21 and except for a couple of items (blade tension lever and trunnions) there is nothing to be done other than cleaning. The manual says, "The bearings in the drive mechanism are sealed and permanently lubricated and do not need to be oiled or greased." Scrappile and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Ron, I have never greased my EX30, and it's an older (12 year old) model. I hope that I can find the manual and figure out where and how to apply grease . Chances are Frank your saw has sealed bearings being it's six years newer. Contact customer service at Seyco to confirm. My saw is belt driven. At the very back on the top arm on side you can see the bearing shaft. Just above to left is a screw. A hex wrench is required to remove. On the other side, same location is one more. I remove both and from the opposite side I push out the old grease using a Q tip. Screw the screw back on the other side, and with a piece of plastic rod same thickness of Q tip insert fresh grease. Takes very little to fill hole. Screw the screw back in. I do this approximately every 20 hours of use. But like I say I'm sure yours would be sealed. Edited February 5, 2016 by Ron Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 This is me. I would not grease a machine that is still under warrantee unless the owners manual states what and where to grease/oil/lube. In most cases the sleeves and fittings needing the grease are only accessible by opening the cover and disassembling the machine. That is the case with both my DW788's. Once you open that cover you can pretty much forget your warrantee. Just something to think about. Smitty54 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Pellow Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Ron, I did manage to find my EX30 manual and, as you expected, the bearings are permanently lubricated. I located the hex screws that you mentioned and will (eventually) change the grease as you suggest. The manual does recommend periodic lubrication in the spot you mention but outlines a different technique for doing so. Edited February 5, 2016 by Frank Pellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Has a conversation with another member and just thought I'd ask. Maybe your saw doesn't need grease. As for Delta's and Dewalts, I suggest they be greased as soon as you get them. Grease other saw's, I don't know. I greased both my saws ... before I heard a noise, I did notice they are quiter, even my 'new' 40-694. What saw do you have? I lubed all my bearings with Valvoline synthetic grease and made a new saw out of it.It was well worn out but the tollerances were takin up,greatly from the thick grease.Had i been able to get two ore bearings out the saw would have lasted years.But now after two tears since the breakdown lube job it's time to retire her.I thought so that the two bearing s i couldn't get out were pressed out so i didn't want down time any longer than necessary so i left the two bearings ungreased.Had i known i would have run down to harbor freight and bought their mini press to do the job for me.Great movie find ,now i know.I have bench space ,time and the will to get all my dewalts in tip top condition OCtoolguy and LarryEA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) My Hegner came with a small grease gun. I grease it about twice a year. My 1988 Jet saw has no way to grease it. Edited February 11, 2016 by Jim Finn OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 haven't yet have to do both 788's one I have never used just tested it when I bought 4 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drzgold6 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 2/4/2016 at 1:34 PM, Ron Johnson said: Chances are Frank your saw has sealed bearings being it's six years newer. Contact customer service at Seyco to confirm. My saw is belt driven. At the very back on the top arm on side you can see the bearing shaft. Just above to left is a screw. A hex wrench is required to remove. On the other side, same location is one more. I remove both and from the opposite side I push out the old grease using a Q tip. Screw the screw back on the other side, and with a piece of plastic rod same thickness of Q tip insert fresh grease. Takes very little to fill hole. Screw the screw back in. I do this approximately every 20 hours of use. But like I say I'm sure yours would be sealed. Have you taken this saw apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) I followed the 3 part video by Bob Brokaw and did the whole process on my Dewalt. It helped a lot. Since then I have acquired 2 Excaliburs and have done the parts that are easily accessible. I highly recommend doing a complete service on this type of mechanism. The subject of grease attracting sawdust was raised earlier in this thread. To a certain extent that might be right. But the sawdust is much softer than the bearings/sleeves and should not cause any negative effect. The grease, or lack of it, will have far more detrimental effect than the sawdust will. In most cases it's not difficult to take a shop towel and wipe those spots and keep them clean. It's the cheapest way to extend the life of your saw. Edited December 22, 2020 by octoolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crupiea Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 I used to lube my little delta saw because it was easy,, just take ioff the side panel and go at it. The dewalt is a different animal. I dont want to dig around in there and loosing screws and whatever. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 I greased my saw really well and its sliding down the street. RJF LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted December 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 2/3/2016 at 7:34 PM, LarryEA said: Good point.............Most of the grease points on the Delta are under sealed cover. You are correct on those places 'I' greased that are in the open. These are the upper and lower blade arms. Better grease there than no grease? I'll watch those. I grease most of the moving parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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