Sam777 Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Hello experts, Do you wax your scroll saw table tops? When I bought this saw, there were no scratches on the table. Now with no more than 5 hours of work on it I managed to scratch the table top. See attached file. Thank you for your help Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Mine looks worse then yours. I just waxed the top with min wax polished hoping to slow this down. Just purchased my EX-21 not long ago. Will say I love the saw but the table finish comes up short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjR Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Not an "expert" but I have owned a scrollsaw for over 60 years! Yes, I do have my first one, and it does still work! Now is used very very little, but, I will keep it .The original book on that old Craftsman 11" said to use candle wax (beeswax) on the blades and the tin table for a lubricant! I have used the candle stubs on them ever since, white works best or the translucent ones. as that leaves a clear residue and does not stain the wood. In fact; even did it again today. I just lay the candle sideways and rub it around, seems to work well. A very fine sand paper 400+ and a random orbit sander can remove the scratches; if they bother you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR48 Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I use paste floor wax for all my table tops. Not only does it make the wood slide easily but it also helps prevent rust on the cast iron. JJB and Scrolling Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywoodmaster Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Yes I wax the work surfaces on all my equipment. Planer, Jointer, Scroll Saw, Table Saw or anything that the wood will slide on. I use a citrus wax that I found. Don't remember the name right now. It halps protect the metal and aslo makes the wood slide easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 The only way your going to stop scratching is to put a ply top on it. I use WD40 specialist silicon spray. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodduck Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I give mine a going over with 400 grit wet & dry paper,clean off with mineral spirits & I also use talcum powder for the slide factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Yes I do wax and yes the top of the EX does mark up easy but it does not have any negative effects I can tell. I apply my wax using nylon steel wool like pads. Klingspor makes them. For me they work far better then steel wool. One note. Before I wax I clean the surface using one piece of a pad and mineral spirits.http://www.woodworkingshop.com/product/nw06216/ Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I wax my saw tops before I start working every day that I'm in my shop. Johnsons Paste wax is my choice. I used Butchers paste wax for years, until the can that I had been given, ran out. I switched to Johnsons after getting sticker shock from the Butchers wax price. There doesn't seem to be any difference between them, except for the price, when used for waxing machinery. I even lubricate the gears, slides, and trunnion ways in my tools with it, applying it with an old tooth brush. The surface of the wax dries so sawdust doesn't stick to it like other lubricants do. Whatever wax choice you make, AVOID USING SILICONE BASED WAXES. Once silicone gets on wood you will never be able to get a finish to stick to where the silicone has landed. If the silicone product is sprayed in your shop you will get fish eyes in your finish everywhere the droplets of silicone have landed. I have banned anything containing silicone from my shop after making this mistake in my last shop. I don't worry about the Johnsons or Butchers waxes because a light wipe down of my projects with mineral spirits before finishing removes them easily. Getting silicone completely off of anything is nearly impossible. Charley oldhudson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I have used silicon DW40 for years on my band saws and scrollsaws NO ill effects what so ever, must be the make your using Charley. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I use a paste wax,Turtle car wax, once a week.......Top of my saw looks very used, but works well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I've used Johnson's Paste wax for many years on all my woodworking equipment, including the scroll saw table. As others have noted stock slides much better and it prevents rust. I agree with Charley, silicon based products can have a terrible effect on finishing. I'm very cautious where and how I used those products. I'm especially cautious with WD-40 which is really a penetrating oil. I use it when I need to remove a rusted fastener on something. That said, if it works for you Roly, great. You have to stick with what works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleJScroller Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I live in Florida and with the humidity here if you don't wax your table you'll have a pile of rust in no time (found that out the hard way). I use Johnson's paste wax as well and it has worked great for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodknots Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Mine did the same thing when i got tired of looking at it i put a piece of formica on mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I wax my table weekly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I've used Johnson's Paste wax for many years on all my woodworking equipment, including the scroll saw table. As others have noted stock slides much better and it prevents rust. I agree with Charley, silicon based products can have a terrible effect on finishing. I'm very cautious where and how I used those products. I'm especially cautious with WD-40 which is really a penetrating oil. I use it when I need to remove a rusted fastener on something. That said, if it works for you Roly, great. You have to stick with what works. Your right there Berry it works for me. I don't use it as a coating on wood or spray it around the shop because it only goes on my saw tables also blades and as the instruction below says it dries fast, WD40 is not just a penetrating oil any more there are lots of different products now, check out the site it might surprise you, here's a picture of the one I use. Waterproof and fast drying for high pressure performance. Eliminates sticking & binding and prevents rust & corrosion. Operating temp -35°C to +200°C. For use on metal. Includes smart straw feature. Enjoy you waxing guys. Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I use Johnson paste wax on all my tool surfaces also. My 788TypeII table has what I call a rough machined surface. I am a machinist by trade so am not impressed with the finish at all. But ig I use the paste wax often the wood slides very nicely. I like the idea that CharleyL had about using on the gears and slides etc. I'll have to give that a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I live in a very dry climate and have never waxed any of my tools or tool tables. I have had my DeWalt for over ten years and it has no rust what so ever. I have never felt that my wood is in anyway difficult to maneuver on my saw table so I never saw any need to wax my saw table. This week, however, I got thinking about how many people use and suggest doing it, I have to confess I have nothing to loose by giving it a try. I am slow to change, as many of you already know , and what the heck, I just might give it a try Dick hepppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I count the mars on my EX as proud battle blemishes. If I see a picture of an EX that looks pristine, I'm thinking that the saw does not get used much. I think Wax will help, but I don't think it will eliminate that effect completely. They bothered me a little initially, but that wore off and now it's not a big deal. Initially, it is like getting that first scratch on a new car. --------Randy Edited February 19, 2016 by hotshot wombatie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Saws with an aluminum or aluminum alloy table will naturally scratch much easier than a cast iron one will. Waxing the table might reduce scratching to some extent but my main reason for using wax is to make the work piece easier to move around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I use Minwax paste maybe once a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crupiea Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 If the wood starts to stick they i use some wax on it, other wise no. no big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Framer Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I also use min wax used to use Johnson's paste but haven't got any yet. In fact I'm going to wax it tonite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Ok Guys, I thank all of you for the reply and advice. NO, the scratches don't bother me, but I thought I might be pushing too much down on the wood pieces as I'm cutting. As you guys may have noticed, I am new to scroll sawing with a scrollsaw. In the past (about 30 + years ago) I used a manual scrollsaw for about 5 years (none-stop). (I tried to attach its picture but I can't find the attach button here). I just bought a lightly used EX-16. I am still learning and have a loooooonnnng way to go some of you guys' level. So will ask a lot of questions as I cut more. Thank you all for the contribution Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarltheScroller Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Another vote for Johnson's paste wax. Use it all the time on everything, including my finished scroll saw pieces when they aren't too intricate. A can lasts for years. I rub it on the scroll saw table with 0000 steel wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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