orangeman Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I designed this puzzle last week after seeing a clip art image of a trigger-fish when I was surfing for something else. I bought the rights to the image for $10 which gives me a commercial license to make and sell this puzzle. The first one I made was a little different as the fish was even with the oval. It was hard to get out of the frame; so I planed off the oval part so the fish is about 1/8" higher than the oval. I used Iroko wood for the puzzle and it is a tray type puzzle with 1/8" baltic birch glued to the bottom. I stained the frame with a walnut stain to give some contrast and coated with lacquer. The fish is natural wood with one coat of Watco Danish Oil. I contacted the folks I bought the image from and asked if I could submit my puzzle to a magazine for publication. The answer was NO WAY. The artist retains the copyright! If this item sells at the next craft show I will probably try doing other kinds of fish along these lines and maybe even larger ones. I was thinking of a starting price of $20. It is a triggerfish or humuhumunukunukuapua’a; Hawaii's state fish. Edited February 24, 2016 by orangeman keefie, Lucky2, lawson56 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWSUDEKUM Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Great job on the puzzle. You have run into the issue that can happen when you work off someone else's photography. If you were to have used a public domain picture of that fish from say one of the Government websites like http://www.fs.fed.us/ , http://www.fws.gov/ , http://images.fws.gov/ then there would be no issue with copyright as all the pictures posted by the Federal Government belong to us as citizens. There are other public domain websites that have pictures however try not to use Wikipedia as there is no governance on if the pictures are actually public domain or not. Thanks for sharing this with us. DW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montserrat Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Your puzzle looks nice, good job! As far as photos goes you can got to https://www.flickr.comand there choose the option creative commons and then select the licence from which to choose then you should always be on the safe side! amazingkevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 DW, Yes, I could have found an outline of a triggerfish free of copyright but the image I found lent itself perfectly to a puzzle with only slight modification. And I was willing to pay the nominal fee of $10 to use the artists design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWSUDEKUM Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 DW, Yes, I could have found an outline of a triggerfish free of copyright but the image I found lent itself perfectly to a puzzle with only slight modification. And I was willing to pay the nominal fee of $10 to use the artists design. No problem. Was just suggesting a potential solution to the problem of not being able to use your hard work in making the puzzle pattern. Like I had mentioned before that is a great puzzle. DW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes, that is a great puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Nice work, Very nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 It is a triggerfish or humuhumunukunukuapua’a; Hawaii's state fish. That's easy for YOU to say !! Nice job on that, btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdatelle Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 That came out great. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Nice puzzle and job. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's a nice looking puzzle Brian, but, a little more difference in color of the cutting and the backer would look good also. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penquin Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 My wife was born and grow up on Maui and can pronounce this name easily. Me I am lost. Not sure about the copy right stuff but I really like the puzzle and the way it is set up. Thanks for showing your work to us. jim penquin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I designed this puzzle last week after seeing a clip art image of a trigger-fish when I was surfing for something else. I bought the rights to the image for $10 which gives me a commercial license to make and sell this puzzle. The first one I made was a little different as the fish was even with the oval. It was hard to get out of the frame; so I planed off the oval part so the fish is about 1/8" higher than the oval. I used Iroko wood for the puzzle and it is a tray type puzzle with 1/8" baltic birch glued to the bottom. I stained the frame with a walnut stain to give some contrast and coated with lacquer. The fish is natural wood with one coat of Watco Danish Oil. I contacted the folks I bought the image from and asked if I could submit my puzzle to a magazine for publication. The answer was NO WAY. The artist retains the copyright! If this item sells at the next craft show I will probably try doing other kinds of fish along these lines and maybe even larger ones. I was thinking of a starting price of $20. It is a triggerfish or humuhumunukunukuapua’a; Hawaii's state fish. each and every project is so unique in the village i wish some of the creativity would rub off on me.Terrific looking puzzle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Great puzzle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Great work Brian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 I took the trigger fish puzzle to an art/craft show last weekend. High end show and sold a ton of puzzles. But I didn't sell a single trigger fish puzzle! priced it at $20. No interest whatsoever. Not a single comment! It's one of my favorites however. bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfie Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Nice puzzle thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leshko Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Wonderful fish!You made a pattern from a photo? Great idea. I'm interested in how she looks like a fish, and saw a lot of different pictures. There has been a lot of different colors and shapes of color. I contacted the folks I bought the image from and asked if I could submit my puzzle to a magazine for publication. The answer was NO WAY. The artist retains the copyright! Is copyright the photographer restrict you? After all, this is a completely new creation. God forbid, someone will register the rights to a photo of the Sun - then children can not draw it without fear of invasion of lawyers. oldhudson and Dave Monk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Love the puzzle Awesome job .I have heard the pronounced many times.It dose take practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I thought it came out great and thanks for all the detail in the post. A lot of time there's a story to go with the project and I appreciate the ruler which gives the viewer a sense of scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 As I said previously the puzzle did not sell. Someone recommended I make a combination music box/puzzle. You can buy those thingys that come in greeting cards for less than a buck. Then record a song. "The little grass shack" by Don Ho has humuhumunukunukuapoa in the song as does a song from High School Musical. But then there are copyright issues there! Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Wonderful fish!You made a pattern from a photo? Great idea. I'm interested in how she looks like a fish, and saw a lot of different pictures. There has been a lot of different colors and shapes of color. Is copyright the photographer restrict you? After all, this is a completely new creation. God forbid, someone will register the rights to a photo of the Sun - then children can not draw it without fear of invasion of lawyers. Alexey, The image I bought is rather unique. I did little modification to create the puzzle out of wood. I thought the $10 I paid was very reasonable to use the image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefie Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Excellent work there , love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leshko Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Brian, your fish is superb. I think you know the intricacies of copyright in the US is much better than I do. So I just believe you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.thumb.jpg.95d348aa76923344a5cab534cc1b3bc1.jpg)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.