FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hi SSV.. My next project is going to call for roughly 3 sheets of 1/4" 16x24 Cherry (7 "parts" to the project) but I can't seem to find anyone that sells that big of a size other than in plywood (which I don't want).. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 www.ocoochhardwoods.com Hi SSV.. My next project is going to call for roughly 3 sheets of 1/4" 16x24 Cherry (7 "parts" to the project) but I can't seem to find anyone that sells that big of a size other than in plywood (which I don't want).. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 When you say "sheets" you imply plywood. What you are looking for are boards. Chances are you will not find 1/4" Cherry in 16" width. You are going to have to glue up boards to get the width you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Helbich Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) www.ocoochhardwoods.com Thank you! Is this site the best to be ordering off of? How fast do they deliever? (EXPENSIVE shipping to Canada! Trying to find one thats more "Canadian" based! ) Edited March 31, 2016 by AlexH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 if you have a Windsor Plywood lumber yard close to you check with them. I purchase most of my hardwoods from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Helbich Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 if you have a Windsor Plywood lumber yard close to you check with them. I purchase most of my hardwoods from them. Thunder Bay is closest. haha. Im right near detriot - nothing around me! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 www.ocoochhardwoods.com Thanks Kevin.. Has already checked them out. They only had plywood in the size that I'm looking for and boy, their shipping charges are very expensive.... Thank you though, my friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 When you say "sheets" you imply plywood. What you are looking for are boards. Chances are you will not find 1/4" Cherry in 16" width. You are going to have to glue up boards to get the width you need. Hi Dan.. Thanks.. "Boards" is what I'm looking for but I was trying to avoid gluing them up (if I could).. I might not have a choice... Appreciate the comment.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 if you have a Windsor Plywood lumber yard close to you check with them. I purchase most of my hardwoods from them. Thanks Ron.. I don't have that particular lumber yard but I might have to take a trip to the closest one to me, just to see what they have. Lumber yard was my next choice if I can't find it soon.. Appreciate the comment, friend ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Need your opinion, SSV.. If I can't get the size I need without "gluing", how does cherry plywood compare to hardwood in terms of finishing, longevity, etc ? Here's the project I'm working on.. My daughter is getting married in May and I want to make her a "collection" box for the reception. I have it designed out, patterns, etc.. and want to use nothing but the scroll saw to make it. The finished product will be 7 pieces and the overall dimension will be roughly 8" wide, 15" long and 14" high. The back will be hinged with a little heart lock on it. The top (with the slot) will be cut at an angle. Of course, scroll work will be done on the sides and in the front, then I'll use 1/8" backer board with a different color to line the inside. I just finished a "prototype" out of some 1/2" plywood stock I had left over but the final piece, I'm thinking 1/4". 1/2" just seems to bulky and heavy for this project. I want it to be more "elegant" than if I was making a tool chest But I want something that going to look great and last a very long time - so they have a keepsake they can always use for candles, etc.. If plywood isn't going to fit the bill, I don't want to use it.. However, if cherry plywood, finished with BLO (or whatever) will look great and will last them, then I'll spring for that.. Thoughts / comments appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I hI have never seen cherry in that size. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 see clamps and glue in your future ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I hI have never seen cherry in that size. LOL Yeah.. Kinda figured but I thought I would ask anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 see clamps and glue in your future ! I kinda think you're right, Steve Glue I have.. Clamps, not to many (yet) but I see a trip to Lowes or Home Depot in the very near future !! Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 There are three sellers on Ebay I have dealt with several time. I buy cherry and maple boards from them that I glue up to make scroll pictures from. The don't sell the size you are looking for, but you could email them and ask. I have received nice stock from all of them and have been given good service. The sellers are: mainhardwood deer56hunter csmdeals88 Might be worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 You may well find a source to special order boards in that width, but be prepared to pay a premium for them. As for plywood, one concern I would have would be the exposed edges. The faces of the cherry will darken over time, but the edges of inner plys will look different. You may be able to cover the outside edges with some sort of trim, but the exposed edges of the scrollwork will always be visible. Perhaps the finish would help offset the contrast and it may not be all that noticeable, but it's something to consider. I wouldn't worry about the durability and longevity of the plywood. Afterall, they make high end kitchen cabinets and furniture out of the stuff, so it should hold up OK. Frankly, if I were you, I would invest in a few more clamps and work on making your own glued up panels. It isn't all that hard. Use cauls to help keep the joined edges aligned, then a scraper or some judicious sanding will even everything out. Take care to try and match up the grain pattern and coloration of the boards as best you can, so that the joints are as invisible as possible. Heck, if you did buy plywood, you may end up with sheets where the veneer is applied in narrow strips that look like several boards were glued up to make the panel anyway. Good luck, sounds like a nice project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 There are three sellers on Ebay I have dealt with several time. I buy cherry and maple boards from them that I glue up to make scroll pictures from. The don't sell the size you are looking for, but you could email them and ask. I have received nice stock from all of them and have been given good service. The sellers are: mainhardwood deer56hunter csmdeals88 Might be worth a try. Thank you, Paul !! I'll definitely check these folks out.. Appreciate the input !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 You may well find a source to special order boards in that width, but be prepared to pay a premium for them. As for plywood, one concern I would have would be the exposed edges. The faces of the cherry will darken over time, but the edges of inner plys will look different. You may be able to cover the outside edges with some sort of trim, but the exposed edges of the scrollwork will always be visible. Perhaps the finish would help offset the contrast and it may not be all that noticeable, but it's something to consider. I wouldn't worry about the durability and longevity of the plywood. Afterall, they make high end kitchen cabinets and furniture out of the stuff, so it should hold up OK. Frankly, if I were you, I would invest in a few more clamps and work on making your own glued up panels. It isn't all that hard. Use cauls to help keep the joined edges aligned, then a scraper or some judicious sanding will even everything out. Take care to try and match up the grain pattern and coloration of the boards as best you can, so that the joints are as invisible as possible. Heck, if you did buy plywood, you may end up with sheets where the veneer is applied in narrow strips that look like several boards were glued up to make the panel anyway. Good luck, sounds like a nice project! Thanks Bill.. I see your point about the "longevity" of plywood so that's good to know but yeah, the "finish" is one of the things I'm worried about on the plywood.. I"m going to check out the names mentioned in Paul's response just to see if it's possible.. I'm thinking I should just bite the bullet and try something I've never done before and start gluing !! After all, it is for my daughter (and future little ones down the road) so what's a little sweat equity ! Plus it'll be a learning experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Need your opinion, SSV.. If I can't get the size I need without "gluing", how does cherry plywood compare to hardwood in terms of finishing, longevity, etc ? Here's the project I'm working on.. My daughter is getting married in May and I want to make her a "collection" box for the reception. I have it designed out, patterns, etc.. and want to use nothing but the scroll saw to make it. The finished product will be 7 pieces and the overall dimension will be roughly 8" wide, 15" long and 14" high. The back will be hinged with a little heart lock on it. The top (with the slot) will be cut at an angle. Of course, scroll work will be done on the sides and in the front, then I'll use 1/8" backer board with a different color to line the inside. I just finished a "prototype" out of some 1/2" plywood stock I had left over but the final piece, I'm thinking 1/4". 1/2" just seems to bulky and heavy for this project. I want it to be more "elegant" than if I was making a tool chest But I want something that going to look great and last a very long time - so they have a keepsake they can always use for candles, etc.. If plywood isn't going to fit the bill, I don't want to use it.. However, if cherry plywood, finished with BLO (or whatever) will look great and will last them, then I'll spring for that.. Thoughts / comments appreciated... for the project you have in mind Mike I would choose ¼" Cherry plywood even though my preference is a solid hardwood (the widest width you'll find in a solid Cherry wood will be maybe 10" or 12" and difinitely not in 1/4" thickness). This will solve the size requirements saving $$ and time. Once the project is completed with finish of choice it'll look awesome. Longevity is no concern. Edited March 31, 2016 by Ron Johnson FranMike Harley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hi SSV.. Thank you all for your suggestions and great input. I haven't quite made up my mind yet as to whether or not do plywood or hardwood.. But in the meantime, I did take Paul (aka Scrappile) up on his suggestion to check out "mainehardwood" over at Ebay.. (Thanks Paul..) Although I"m not sure if I'll use it with this project or not, I did just place an order for 16 pieces (10 cherry, 6 red oak) of 1/4" x 5" x 24" for less than $70. with free shipping (16 pieces in a bundle, you can mix and match between 4 types of wood to make up the 16) . If my math is correct, that's less than $ 4.50 a board. The few times I did order wood online, I ordered from "scrolleronline.com" and for 1 piece of cherry, 1/4" x 8" x 24", it was $ 15.49 plus shipping. That's the price of 4 boards from the merchant on Ebay.. And if I don't use it for this specific project, at least I can stock up on some wood !! So I sure learned alot from this post including how to save $$ on wood Whatever I decide to do, I'll be sure to post the final piece here on SSV.. This Village is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just an FYI. The thinner the stock the more susceptible it is to warping, twisting and cupping. Don't stock pile too much. FranMike Harley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Mike, You are only about 3 miles from one of the best Domestic and Imported wood lumber companies in the Northeast. If anybody can supply you with what you are looking for, they can. Their warehouse is on South Greenhaven Road (Across the street from the prison). Look for M L Condon Lumber Company. That Greenhaven location was just a warehouse when I lived there and their main office was in White Plains, but they told me (just as I was moving away) that they would get me whatever I needed from White Plains and have it sent up on the next truck. Before that I was driving all the way to White Plains to buy from them. The Greenhaven location is over 4X as big as it was 30 years ago, so they may even have the ability to cut and sell direct to you from there now. It's definitely worth a visit to see what they can do for you. That's some mighty thin wood that you are looking for and the width will likely require a glue-up, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I agree with NC Scroller. If you can get it that size, don't stockpile it, as it is highly likely to warp and twist over time, maybe even after you cut and finish it. You would be much better off using veneer plywood if you need it to stay flat. There was also a lumber company in the downtown area of Pleasant Valley that I used to buy from, but I can't remember the name. My last purchase from them was 2 X 10 (finished dimension) quarter sawn select grade white pine to make table tops for a Western Style Restaurant. My son used some of my left overs from that job to make a coffee table in high school shop that I still have. Charley Edited April 1, 2016 by CharleyL FranMike Harley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMike Harley Posted April 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Mike, You are only about 3 miles from one of the best Domestic and Imported wood lumber companies in the Northeast. If anybody can supply you with what you are looking for, they can. Their warehouse is on South Greenhaven Road (Across the street from the prison). Look for M L Condon Lumber Company. That Greenhaven location was just a warehouse when I lived there and their main office was in White Plains, but they told me (just as I was moving away) that they would get me whatever I needed from White Plains and have it sent up on the next truck. Before that I was driving all the way to White Plains to buy from them. The Greenhaven location is over 4X as big as it was 30 years ago, so they may even have the ability to cut and sell direct to you from there now. It's definitely worth a visit to see what they can do for you. That's some mighty thin wood that you are looking for and the width will likely require a glue-up, but it doesn't hurt to ask. I agree with NC Scroller. If you can get it that size, don't stockpile it, as it is highly likely to warp and twist over time, maybe even after you cut and finish it. You would be much better off using veneer plywood if you need it to stay flat. There was also a lumber company in the downtown area of Pleasant Valley that I used to buy from, but I can't remember the name. My last purchase from them was 2 X 10 (finished dimension) quarter sawn select grade white pine to make table tops for a Western Style Restaurant. My son used some of my left overs from that job to make a coffee table in high school shop that I still have. Charley Thanks Charley !! I just "google mapped" it and yes, it's not very far from me.. Wow !! I'll have to take a ride over there just to check it out anyway.. Never knew that was there.. Pass it going to the Stormville Flea Market.. Appreciate the tip.. Will let you know when I go and what I find Edited April 1, 2016 by FranMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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