Billieselene Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I have been given a scroll saw by a friend to put into "active storage"for her adult daughter. [i can use it all I want]but I had to recover the table which was covered in rust [vinegar works wonders] now I would like to know if I could paint it to prevent further rust.I've got about 6 coats of auto paste Wax on it and I'm still pulling up the fine rust. I thought of getting it clean and then painting it with rustoleum paint [one that binds with rust to take care of the immediate problem then with a white finish to leave a smooth coat. Yea? Nay? Any other ideas? Thanks for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton717 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I would just clean all the rust off by using mineral spirits and fine steel wool or a scrubbing pad and then wax it. The vinegar may be causing the "fine rust". I would be afraid to paint it and have the paint make your project stick when sliding around. This is my 2 cents I'm sure there will be others offer help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billieselene Posted July 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 'Preciate the input...your probably right...I've already used the vinegar to clean the heavy Rudy off. The top is stable as far as visible rust [so far ] So I will takeep your advice for the mineral oil. Also I should mention the rabble is very ruff already....I can see the milling marks on it. This is a Delta 15" model 40-170. Obviously a beginners light use saw. [i'm not even sure it runs yet!] I read about retooling a table with something like birch plywood. ..maybe paint it for 'posterity' [still chuckling here] and put a top on it? Yea? Nay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I covered the top of one of my saws with 1/8" masonite and it has been there for a long time, working fine, I did it more for a "zero clearance" (reduce the size of the hole the blade goes through, but it would work for your purposes also. Amazingkevin, a member here has linoleum or something on his saws. Maybe he will speak up here. I know masonite is hard to come by, but pressboard or hardboard or whatever they call it would work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 I've found this product Evapo-rust works pretty well. https://www.amazon.com/Evapo-Rust-ER012-Original-Super-Remover/dp/B00M0TLQ66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469325817&sr=8-1&keywords=evaporust I don't think I'd try painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Flames clean rust off of metal like nobody's business.My oxygen acetylene teacher said cleanliness is next to Godliness.To clean metal for bronze to stick to i needed to heat the metal cherry red .But one thing about rust is it needs oxygen to grow.Cut that off and no more rust.I tryied wax, polish buffing etc but it needed to be done over and over. I like minimal maintenance so i contact cemented thin Formica on my table ,filed the edges and years went by and no problems .the wood slides very good on it . :) Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Get a detail or orbital sander and sand all of the rust off, then wax the top with a good quality wax. Remember to not use a wax that has any silicone in it, it could affect the finish on your work. The problem with adding a thick top, is that it affects how the reverse tooth blades work. If you are going to be adding a top, you should use something no thicker then 1/8". I wouldn't paint it for any reason, painting the table could cause more issues then it solves. Len Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepy Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Naval jelly will remove the rust, then coat with Johnson's paste wax. I use the wax and my saw is in a noncooled or heated shop and I have no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 I bought a twenty five year old Jet scroll saw and it had a rusted table. I used my random orbital sander on it and waxed it. I use it every day now and have no issues with rust. Lucky2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 If it is bad and pitted what I have used is a 4 1/2 grinder and an old flap wheel that i keep just for cleaning surface rust.WD40 let it set for awhile.Clean with MS and a coat of wax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 I glued Formica on mine too. Good idea from Kevin. I used spray glue and I love it. Found a piece at menards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Once cleaned, use a paste wax to keep it like new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Johnson's Paste Wax® is great for doing a saw table. There is no silicone or anything to transfer to the work to prevent finishes from adhering and it goes on easy. Since I cut outside, I drape my table with a black trash bag to heat up the table slightly (opens the pores) and then slap on a medium heavy coat of wax--wait about 20 minutes and then buff it off with some old t-shirt material. Sun really warms the table rapidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmerstutzen Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 There are several grades of steel wool. One of the finest usually available is 0000. It can clean off fine rust without scratching or damaging the main surface. Gunsmith use it to restore old guns because it cleans the metal of rust without marring the old patina. But it must be 0000 not 000 or coarser. Coaster will scratch the surface badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billieselene Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Thanks everyone for all your good ideas. I used 'cleaning' grade vinegar (Applemans). Soaked it for about 3 hours [don't think it needed that much time just forgot about ;-)]. Used Turtle wax on it so I might have to 'sand' the wax off...silicone....but the formic and such ideas are well taken. Again Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodknots Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 I glued Formica on mine too. Good idea from Kevin. I used spray glue and I love it. Found a piece at menards. I also used formica and so glad I did. It is easy to do helps if you have a trim router and pattern bit to trim flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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