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[heppnerguy]

I never thought I would be asking a question that must have such an obvious answer to it. If no one else is having this problem, then I should have itfiguredout by now, but I do not. When I and scrolling plaques, I usually have a 1/4 backer board and sometimes even an 1/8 th backer board. This does not give me a thickness to nail on my hangers so I started super gluing them on, but I have discovered that after some time some of them have the glue dry out and they fall off the wall. So I thought I would try liquid nails, but the results is even worse. What do you use to keep the hanger adhered to the wall plaques when there is not enough depth for nails? I am open for any and all ideas. I do not want any of my work to be unsatisfactory to my customers

 

 

Dick

heppnerguy

[Lucky2]

Dick, I use an epoxy for those times.

Len

[Scrappile]

I have not tried it but I agree with Len, I'd use 5 min or 15 min epoxy. 

[Fab4]

Hi Dick:

I deleted what I posted because after I sent it and thought about it

it made absolutely no sense

Fab4

Edited August 7, 2016 by Fab4

[trackman]

I use two part epoxy to attach my saw tooth hangers.  No problem so far (5 years worth).

[bandaideman]

I think I would use epoxy have had good results with other things. When I use the saw tooth hanger I usually add a little glue to the hanger side down and nail. I have used  a small eye of the hook and eye variety into the top of the edge of the wood.

[DWSUDEKUM]

Dick look up on Google a thing called a French Cleat

 

 

 

This is a rough sketch of one.  They are easy to make and can hang a considerable amount of weight.  Museums use this to hang those huge pictures and contractors use them to hang cabinets.

 

DW

Edited August 7, 2016 by DWSUDEKUM

[heppnerguy]

Thanks guys. Problem solved. The pie plaque I made fell off the wall because of what I was using. I hope never again to have that problem. I wonder how many other of my pieces have done the same thing.

 

So glad to learn what others already have known forever.

 

 

Dick

heppnerguy

[Old Joe]

Dick look up on Google a thing called a French Cleat

 

 

This is a rough sketch of one. They are easy to make and can hang a considerable amount of weight. Museums use this to hang those huge pictures and contractors use them to hang cabinets.

 

 

DW

I have several French cleats on my shop walls. Also, I have Bose 301 speakers on my living room wall that came with metal French cleats. It is, I believe, a hanging technique that has been around for about a 1000 years. You can make them as big, or small, as you need to. April Wilkerson has a clear explanation on her blog on how to make them. Check this out:https://www.wilkerdos.com/2014/02/diy-power-tool-storage-system/ Edited August 7, 2016 by Old Joe

[Scrolling Steve]

I just learned something ....I have been using a super glue , but i have not been doing it long enough to start having a problem.....I am looking at using the epoxy system now, Thanks guys !

[Iguanadon]

I had a similar issue with 1/8" pirate flags I was cutting in black walnut.  I finally found these... they work very well.  I pre-drill small holes in order to insert the clips.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XHO6PU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[dgman]

Epoxy is a good solution, but I use a product called E6000. It is a little easier to use as you don't have to mix it. It comes in a tube, and will adhere just about anything to anything. It can be found at any craft or hobby store and most hardware stores.

[LarryEA]

I 'eye' the thickness and cut the

Whoe... what hanger???? a sawtooth?  If so, then just snip off the nail... shorten the nail

Else.... 

[WayneMahler]

Dick I have been using E6000 to attach my hangers. Never heard anything about them NOT holding up. Available at most bid box and sewing stores.

[jerry1939]

Dick,

 

If I make something that will hang, I always use a 1/4" backer. For example, on this one, I laid the cut piece on a backer board. Drew around one side of the dove on top. Slid the fret over to hide the first drawn lines and drew around the other side of the dove. Removed the fret and drew and sawed a horizontal oval in the backer, inside of the drawn lines. Painted the backer, positioned the dove over the cutout, glued on the fret & cut the perimeter.

 

The oval allows the piece to be moved side to side so that it hangs straight.

 

jerry

[Phantom Scroller]

I do the same as Larry snip the nails off with a touch of super glue on the end works a treat. Roly

[Tommy Johnson]

Sloan's Workshop has brass screws as short as 1/8" but on my 1/4" backing board I usually use the 1/4" brass screws.

Tommy

[NC Scroller]

I like to use a 1/4" backer and attach my hanger with 1/4" pan head screws I get at Ace Hardware. I buy them in a box of 100. If I use a 1/8" backer I glue an additional small strip of 1/8" stock say 1/2" x 1 1/2" to give we the needed thickness. I attach the strip with regular wood glue.

[Paladin]

For most of my non-framed items that hang on the wall I use something like these:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Hillman-Group-121132-Picture-Penders/dp/B000C140VW

 

The points will protrude slightly through a 1/8" backer, but for those times I trim them a little shorter.  I also always apply drop of epoxy over each point.  Haven't had one fall off yet.

 

Steve

[meflick]

Thanks Dick for asking the question and thanks everyone else who has chimed in to give different options.

[Bill WIlson]

I've used a variety of methods, most of which have already been mentioned.  My preference usually runs toward using a mechanical fastener, of some type.  If the piece is somewhat heavy, I've used screw eyes and picture hanging wire, like a painting.  On the rare occasion that I'm not content with any of my usual methods for wall hanging, I'll make an easel and turn the plaque into a shelf sitter, instead of a wall hanger. 

[Falcon]

Dick I have had good luck with Titebond original. Put in where the hanger will be and clamp hanger. Have not had on fall off yet knock on wood.

[heppnerguy]

Thank you.everyone.  I love the many answers and suggestions.  I knew it was not a  hard thing to figure out, but my pea brain often is unattached to reality so I blunder into something and not sure where to turn when it is not engaged to fine the answer, no matter how simple the solution may be. But I have finally woke up and remembered that others here have the solution or solutions to anything about scrolling I may need to know.. thanks  once more to all my world wide family members here who have helped me with several great solutions.. I sure hope that this never happens again. If it happened to me, I think I would have second thoughts about my work.

 

Dick

heppnerguy

[olddust1]

I have used Gorilla Glue to glue sawtooh hangers and have had no problems.

 

John

 

Old Dust

[amazingkevin]

Dick look up on Google a thing called a French Cleat

 

 

 

This is a rough sketch of one.  They are easy to make and can hang a considerable amount of weight.  Museums use this to hang those huge pictures and contractors use them to hang cabinets.

 

DW

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