smitty0312 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I have been asked if I can re-create this ships wheel........going have to put my thinking cap on for this one........ amazingkevin and Sparkey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye10 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I have been asked if I can re-create this ships wheel........going have to put my thinking cap on for this one........ Does that include what looks like drywall screws in the hub? I have heard wheels are hard to make but if this one is just for show and won't have to carry a load it might make it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdatelle Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Nice looking wheel. You got your work cut out for you there. I did a couple of wheels but not that big. I cut the angles at 22.5 degrees and that seem to make them fit pretty good. Trial and error. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty0312 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Does that include what looks like drywall screws in the hub? I have heard wheels are hard to make but if this one is just for show and won't have to carry a load it might make it easier. They put the screws in as it was rotting.......mine won't have any screws showing on the front Nice looking wheel. You got your work cut out for you there. I did a couple of wheels but not that big. I cut the angles at 22.5 degrees and that seem to make them fit pretty good. Trial and error. Good luck. I know 22.5° will get me around the wheel........angles play with my head though........I got a plan......stay tuned......it doesn't have to be exact, but I'm going to try.......I like the challenge Edited September 18, 2016 by smitty0312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 It looks pretty simple. You have the prototype in front of you so you can easily copy the angles and measurements. Just a matter of how fancy you want to get. Pin all the joints with some dark dowels. Make the spokes a different colored wood than the body and the ideas will flow. smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty0312 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 It looks pretty simple. You have the prototype in front of you so you can easily copy the angles and measurements. Just a matter of how fancy you want to get. Pin all the joints with some dark dowels. Make the spokes a different colored wood than the body and the ideas will flow. I plan on using my Kreg Jig for most of the end joints....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty0312 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Each layer is 1.125 thick.......I'm going to have to plane down some 2x lumber I guess......it's pretty chunky.....everything is rounded over for a nice clean look Edited September 18, 2016 by smitty0312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You have a very fun project. I made one for a little sail boat I was going to build. Boat never got built, but the wheel is hanging on my wall. smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Looks like a fun and interesting project. Plus you may get to learn a few new tricks along your journey smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I have one that I have put off for almost 10 years now. Now that I am back in the shop and full of pep I may just get around to it. smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ahoy there ship mate, I'm looking forward to see what you come up with on this one. Roly smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty0312 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I drew up a handle in Inkscape.....and got the template cut...... Phantom Scroller and Birchbark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 For the wheel, the angle on the ends of each piece, in this case 8 pieces, needs to be calculated in the following manner. 360 degrees, divided by the number of pieces, in this case 8 which equals 45 deg, but then divided by 2 because the end of each piece is 1/2 of the angle formed by each two intersecting pieces, So set your miter saw for 22.5 degrees and cut both ends of each piece, one end left, and the other end right. Be very careful to use a stop, so each piece is "exactly the same length". The layer with the spokes will require shorter pieces between the spokes, but the angles should be the same. The third layer (back side) should be identical to the first layer, so make pieces for both of these layers at the same time. If you want a smooth round edge inside and out, you need to fasten each glued together layer "one at a time" to a piece of plywood with a hole in the exact center of the wheel piece, or to a completely glued up rim assembly minus the spokes. Then use a router with the bit of choice and a circle jig to trim both the inside and outside of each layer of the wheel, or to the glued up assembly minus the rails. In either case, if putting a shaped edge on the wheel, you will need to flip the wheel over and re-attach it to the plywood, exactly centered. The wheel center needs to be made from pieces and routed in a similar manner, or turned on a lathe. Everything requires careful centering to avoid an egg shaped wheel and tight straight joints. I have made several ships wheels, usually from solid mahogany, but mine were intended for sea duty. You will still need to be very careful with the angles and dimensions to make the pieces fit together well. It can be fun, if you can control the dimensions and angles well. Charley amazingkevin and smitty0312 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I am looking forward to seeing the wheel in the finished state ! smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I have been asked if I can re-create this ships wheel........going have to put my thinking cap on for this one........ Nice looking wheel. You got your work cut out for you there. I did a couple of wheels but not that big. I cut the angles at 22.5 degrees and that seem to make them fit pretty good. Trial and error. Good luck. For the wheel, the angle on the ends of each piece, in this case 8 pieces, needs to be calculated in the following manner. 360 degrees, divided by the number of pieces, in this case 8 which equals 45 deg, but then divided by 2 because the end of each piece is 1/2 of the angle formed by each two intersecting pieces, So set your miter saw for 22.5 degrees and cut both ends of each piece, one end left, and the other end right. Be very careful to use a stop, so each piece is "exactly the same length". The layer with the spokes will require shorter pieces between the spokes, but the angles should be the same. The third layer (back side) should be identical to the first layer, so make pieces for both of these layers at the same time. If you want a smooth round edge inside and out, you need to fasten each glued together layer "one at a time" to a piece of plywood with a hole in the exact center of the wheel piece, or to a completely glued up rim assembly minus the spokes. Then use a router with the bit of choice and a circle jig to trim both the inside and outside of each layer of the wheel, or to the glued up assembly minus the rails. In either case, if putting a shaped edge on the wheel, you will need to flip the wheel over and re-attach it to the plywood, exactly centered. The wheel center needs to be made from pieces and routed in a similar manner, or turned on a lathe. Everything requires careful centering to avoid an egg shaped wheel and tight straight joints. I have made several ships wheels, usually from solid mahogany, but mine were intended for sea duty. You will still need to be very careful with the angles and dimensions to make the pieces fit together well. It can be fun, if you can control the dimensions and angles well. Charley Quite interesting project an all.Love learning about angles and how it comes about. smitty0312 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty0312 Posted September 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Progress coming along.......The first of 8 handles cut and rounded over............I planed down a 2x4 to 1.125" thick.......this will be the thickness of whole project Edited September 19, 2016 by smitty0312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty0312 Posted September 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) For the wheel, the angle on the ends of each piece, in this case 8 pieces, needs to be calculated in the following manner. 360 degrees, divided by the number of pieces, in this case 8 which equals 45 deg, but then divided by 2 because the end of each piece is 1/2 of the angle formed by each two intersecting pieces, So set your miter saw for 22.5 degrees and cut both ends of each piece, one end left, and the other end right. Be very careful to use a stop, so each piece is "exactly the same length". The layer with the spokes will require shorter pieces between the spokes, but the angles should be the same. The third layer (back side) should be identical to the first layer, so make pieces for both of these layers at the same time. If you want a smooth round edge inside and out, you need to fasten each glued together layer "one at a time" to a piece of plywood with a hole in the exact center of the wheel piece, or to a completely glued up rim assembly minus the spokes. Then use a router with the bit of choice and a circle jig to trim both the inside and outside of each layer of the wheel, or to the glued up assembly minus the rails. In either case, if putting a shaped edge on the wheel, you will need to flip the wheel over and re-attach it to the plywood, exactly centered. The wheel center needs to be made from pieces and routed in a similar manner, or turned on a lathe. Everything requires careful centering to avoid an egg shaped wheel and tight straight joints. I have made several ships wheels, usually from solid mahogany, but mine were intended for sea duty. You will still need to be very careful with the angles and dimensions to make the pieces fit together well. It can be fun, if you can control the dimensions and angles well. Charley Charley........that is one hell of an explanation.......thank you!! I may come back to this post for reference........ Edited September 19, 2016 by smitty0312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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