danny Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Have been using 1/8"BB as backers lately. Never gave a thought about Hanging them. Saw-tooth hangers is my go to, but How does one Secure them to only 1/8" Did experiment with Gorilla Glue and E6000.... Only gave each a Hour drying time. Both Failed. ....SO.... MY QUESTION AND MAIN CONCERN IS HOPEFULLY SOMEONE OUT THERE HAS A ....PROVEN METHOD.... And would let us know. Thanks in Advance Danny :+} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munzieb Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Not sure if this will work for you but I have used it in the past. I'll cut 2 small 1/8" tabs a littler larger than the saw tooth hanger. Glue one (CA?) where saw tooth goes and the other at opposite location. You should have 1/4" plus the thickness of top cutout. Mark drill bit with blue tape for proper depth so it won't go thru and pre drill holes. Use wax to lube screw threads. If screws are still too long, I will sand off a few threads on my belt sander to make it fit. The work will stand a little proud of the wall because of the blocks in the back and if the hook extends it more, add material to the bottom spacer. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Where I live I can buy 1/2 Baltic Birch as cheap or cheaper than I can buy 1/8".So I always use 1/2", It makes a nice sturdy plaque. dave OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab4 Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Where I live I can buy 1/2 Baltic Birch as cheap or cheaper than I can buy 1/8".So I always use 1/2", It makes a nice sturdy plaque. dave What was the question??? Oh yeah, hangers on 1/8" Thanks Dave - I'll never buy 1/8" material again Fab4 Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Danny, I ALWAYS use a 1/4" backer and cut the front piece out of 1/8" (Usually with a sacrifice luan ply on top.) I drill and saw a 1/4" high oval in the backer, because a lot of designs will not hang straight. Will sometimes tweak the fret design to be able to hide the slot. The oval slot gives an infinite adjustment, as opposed to a sawtooth hanger. Some people put the sawtooth on with the smooth side down for the same effect. The method I use lets the piece hang flat against the wall, if that matters to you. Also, with the whole thing against the wall it is less likely to move "out of plumb" when someone closes a door in the house. jerry Jim Finn, FrankEV, Scrolling Steve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 I have used E6000 and worked for me. I also use 2 part epoxy quick set. Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackman Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 2 part apoxy with saw tooth hanger has never failed me. Scrolling Steve and Sparkey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Hey Danny, I don't use saw tooth hangers, I hate them! Instead, I use triangle shaped hangers. When the material used is too thin for screws or nails, I use the E6000. For a larger plaque, I'll use two of the hangers. I use a dab of E6000, enough for it to squeeze through the screw hole in the hanger. You definitely need to give it more than an hour though. I let it set over night. Have never had a failier. Another thing you can do is glue and clamp a thicker cleat to thetop, back of the backer board. Then you can mount what ever you want. Scrolling Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 This kind of response is why i love the Village...Good stuff ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 I had this same problem myself and these same answers came to me. I think any of the above should solve your problem. Give the glues of choice more time and see if that helps Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Danny, I use two part epoxy, and I've never had an issue. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crupiea Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I glue a small 1 inch wide piece of 1/8" stock to the back of the backer and then nail the sawtooth hanger into that. It will go through the little piece plus through some of the actual backer material. . Stays on nice and strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted October 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I Appreciate Every Reply very much. Never used EPOXY, so will investigate and give it a try. The tip with gluing a 1/8" piece to back of backer sounds like it will work great. YES..YES.... I am so Thankful that I found this Great Family of Woodworkers/Scrollers.... Danny :+} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don in brooklin on Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 If the piece is not too heavy I have been using the 3M Velcro Picture Hangers. The specs say 4lbs weight per set but I have used 2 sets some time. Works great for Intarsia pieces too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTCowpoke22 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I use gorilla glue. Just a little is more than enough as it expands as it dries. Never had any issues with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 most of the pieces that use 1/8" are not too heavy, so I just hang them with 3m command strips. If is going someplace I want to hang things often I will use the 3m velcro hangers so I can change out the pieces. amazingkevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Lots of ways i've tryed, They all work. Google it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I have also used hot glue with no problems. Good luck and God Bless! Spirithorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdatelle Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Sometimes I put a couple of very thin washers under the hanger and then screw it in. Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Most of my wall hung items are thicker than 1/8" but on occasion I have added a small strip of wood to make it thicker where needed. I make my own metal hangers, bent using a pair of pliers and 1/4" screws to attach them through punched holes. Edited November 2, 2016 by Jim Finn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Sawtooth hangers with two part epoxy for thin work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyG Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 Command velcro picture hanging strips.. strong and damage free removal from the wall. Works great... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 On 10/30/2016 at 11:36 AM, danny said: Have been using 1/8"BB as backers lately. Never gave a thought about Hanging them. Saw-tooth hangers is my go to, but How does one Secure them to only 1/8" Did experiment with Gorilla Glue and E6000.... Only gave each a Hour drying time. Both Failed. ....SO.... MY QUESTION AND MAIN CONCERN IS HOPEFULLY SOMEONE OUT THERE HAS A ....PROVEN METHOD.... And would let us know. Thanks in Advance Danny :+} I have used 5-minute or 15-minute epoxy to attach them and have had no failures to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 A lot of good answers above, but my question is "WHY 1/8" BACKER?". To me a Plaque has significan thickness. So if the cutting is done in say 1/8" or even 1/4" material, the backer needs to be a minimum of 1/2" or maybe 3/4". Thus, no problem with using a sawtooth hanger. If by chance you are cutting a thick panel and only need a 1/8" backer, then I can see a problem if the hanger is located at a cutout area. I've had this happen and I wound up gluing a small piece of 1/8" material to be back of the backer where the saw tooth hanger is to be located. I use the vary small 'Hammer-in Sawtooth Hangers' so the prongs are short and won't penetrate through a 1/4" total thickness. I like JimmyG's solution to hanging thin panels without frames. But in my case, I never use anything thinner than 1/4" for a art panel backer, so again the small sawtooth hangers would worrk. However, for me I always make frames for my art panels and the hanger is mounted on the frame. For me the real answer is simple, just use a 1/4" or thicker Backer...then no problem using a Sawtooth Hanger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 I started reading the replies and when I got to MrsN I looked at the date and realized it is an older thread. Then I realized she hasn't been on in a long time. Hope all is well @MrsN . Then I saw @amazingkevin! Hope he is okay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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