Arrg - what is the secret?

[JimErn]

There is an old cowboy  saying, "be quick to help, and slow to ask for it", but here  I am.

 

What is the secret to getting the drum sleeve on the drill drum sanding attachment ( see pic for I am talking about)

 

I have
1. removed the mounting (squeeze screw) and rolled the rubber under pressure 

2. after doing #1, I sprayed the rubber with dry silicone lube

3. I froze the rubber (well it works to put a steel gear on machined shaft)

 

and all I can get is the sleeve about 3/4 of the way on the rubber.

 

Jim

[LarryEA]

I have this problem also. I regret I havev no solution and like you

I will wait for others to answer.......

[Birchbark]

When the seal on my pressure cooker dries out and i need to soften it again, i soak it in vegetable oil over night.  Soft as new.  Seals for a couple more years.

 

Russell

[Dan]

Maybe sand the inside of the sleeve. 

[JimErn]

When the seal on my pressure cooker dries out and i need to soften it again, i soak it in vegetable oil over night.  Soft as new.  Seals for a couple more years.

 

Russell

I'll try it, thanks

[amazingkevin]

There is an old cowboy  saying, "be quick to help, and slow to ask for it", but here  I am.

 

What is the secret to getting the drum sleeve on the drill drum sanding attachment ( see pic for I am talking about)

 

I have

1. removed the mounting (squeeze screw) and rolled the rubber under pressure 

2. after doing #1, I sprayed the rubber with dry silicone lube

3. I froze the rubber (well it works to put a steel gear on machined shaft)

 

and all I can get is the sleeve about 3/4 of the way on the rubber.

 

Jim

I have that problem with my dremil drum sander.

[OLD WORMY]

I always keep a can of talcum powder on hand and sprinkle on the drum and it helps sleeve slide on. 

[JimErn]

I always keep a can of talcum powder on hand and sprinkle on the drum and it helps sleeve slide on. 

Thanks for another idea, I'll try that one too

[Rolf]

Where did you buy them? I have had some that never did work well. And one set that never gave me a problem. HF stuff can be like that at times. I now use pneumatic drums easy to deflate.

[Birchbark]

Chuck it up in a drill press, use some fine sandpaper about the same width as the drum and take 1mm off of it.  Can't use it the way it is, may as well give something a try 

 

Russell

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

The best way to sand the rubber down a bit is if you had a lathe. Then you will sand evenly. If you do not the sleeve can have a flat spot. Sticking it in the freezer for about 15 minutes is a good way but if you keep changing grits that can be a pain. There are times those sleeves have a burr on the edges. May help to take a piece of sandpaper and sand the edges some to give it a cone shape somewhat. 

 

The only time I use a drum sander like that is on my industrial drum sander and the rubber drums are slightly smaller and they always rely on the squeezing from the plate put on top and tightening the nut. 

[dgman]

What's the secret? Dump them and get a dedicated oscillating spindle sander!

[JimErn]

What's the secret? Dump them and get a dedicated oscillating spindle sander!

I had to google that one.

The pics on the net seem to show the same concept for changing sizes or grits, so I not sure what the advantage is?

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

I had to google that one.

The pics on the net seem to show the same concept for changing sizes or grits, so I not sure what the advantage is?

As I posted in my response i too use a spindle sander or basically a larger drum sander. The sanding drums require you to use a plate and a nut to squeeze the drum so it snugs against the sleeve. They are always smaller in diameter than the sleeve so you change grits easier. With each size drum come with the proper end plates so it is always proportioned to that drum. They are more industrial and better quality. That is the difference. 

[Rockytime]

I have small drum sanders that have a screw at the end of the arbor like a cut off wheel arbor. I loosen the screw to remove the old drum, replace the drum and tighten the screw which swells the rubber and tightens the drum. Perhaps you are referring to something else.

[Lucky2]

You shouldn't be using any kind of lubricant, to get the sleeve over the drum. It might help to get the sleeve on the drum, but, there's just as much of a chance it will make removing the sleeve impossible. If it was mine, I would sand the drum just a bit. Try heating the sleeve and freezing the drum, that might make a big enough difference for it to work.

Len

[Jim Finn]

I have had this problem with small drums that are used in a Dremel type tool.  I now  stretch the sanding sleeve a bit by rotating a needle nosed pliers inside the new sanding sleeve.  It then fits on the mandrel easier.

[LarryEA]

Thanks Jim, sounds like a solution....

 

I have had this problem with small drums that are used in a Dremel type tool.  I now  stretch the sanding sleeve a bit by rotating a needle nosed pliers inside the new sanding sleeve.  It then fits on the mandrel easier.

[MrsN]

I had one I couldn't get to work once and tried the freezer trick, but then forgot it in the freezer. My boyfriend was very confused when he went to get ice.

[wombatie]

I always keep a can of talcum powder on hand and sprinkle on the drum and it helps sleeve slide on. 

That was what I was going to suggest, great minds think a like. 

 

Marg

[hawkeye10]

I had one I couldn't get to work once and tried the freezer trick, but then forgot it in the freezer. My boyfriend was very confused when he went to get ice.

Guys are like that when they are madly in love. I am talking about being confused. I maybe old but I can remember being young and in love.        

[MrsN]

Guys are like that when they are madly in love. I am talking about being confused. I maybe old but I can remember being young and in love.        

yeah, it happens   

[JimErn]

SOLVED

 

After long arduous hours and hours of experimentation.  {well it sounds good}

 

Put the arbor in your drill press, and hold 400 grit sandpaper on it as it spins, sand the rubber down in stages, loosen the holding screw and at some point he paper drum just barely slides on the arbor and will tighten right up.

[Dave Monk]

This sander is probably the best money I have spent in my shop. dave

 

drawing.pdf

[hawkeye10]

This sander is probably the best money I have spent in my shop. dave

Dave I agree. This is a combination belt and spindle sander and I use it often. I do wish it was variable speed. I have had mine for about three years.

 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Oscillating-Edge-Belt-Spindle-Sander-EB4424/100061671