JimErn Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 There is an old cowboy saying, "be quick to help, and slow to ask for it", but here I am. What is the secret to getting the drum sleeve on the drill drum sanding attachment ( see pic for I am talking about) I have1. removed the mounting (squeeze screw) and rolled the rubber under pressure 2. after doing #1, I sprayed the rubber with dry silicone lube 3. I froze the rubber (well it works to put a steel gear on machined shaft) and all I can get is the sleeve about 3/4 of the way on the rubber. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I have this problem also. I regret I havev no solution and like you I will wait for others to answer....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birchbark Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 When the seal on my pressure cooker dries out and i need to soften it again, i soak it in vegetable oil over night. Soft as new. Seals for a couple more years. Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Maybe sand the inside of the sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 When the seal on my pressure cooker dries out and i need to soften it again, i soak it in vegetable oil over night. Soft as new. Seals for a couple more years. Russell I'll try it, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 There is an old cowboy saying, "be quick to help, and slow to ask for it", but here I am. What is the secret to getting the drum sleeve on the drill drum sanding attachment ( see pic for I am talking about) I have 1. removed the mounting (squeeze screw) and rolled the rubber under pressure 2. after doing #1, I sprayed the rubber with dry silicone lube 3. I froze the rubber (well it works to put a steel gear on machined shaft) and all I can get is the sleeve about 3/4 of the way on the rubber. Jim I have that problem with my dremil drum sander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD WORMY Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I always keep a can of talcum powder on hand and sprinkle on the drum and it helps sleeve slide on. wombatie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I always keep a can of talcum powder on hand and sprinkle on the drum and it helps sleeve slide on. Thanks for another idea, I'll try that one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Where did you buy them? I have had some that never did work well. And one set that never gave me a problem. HF stuff can be like that at times. I now use pneumatic drums easy to deflate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birchbark Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Chuck it up in a drill press, use some fine sandpaper about the same width as the drum and take 1mm off of it. Can't use it the way it is, may as well give something a try Russell WayneMahler and Lucky2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 The best way to sand the rubber down a bit is if you had a lathe. Then you will sand evenly. If you do not the sleeve can have a flat spot. Sticking it in the freezer for about 15 minutes is a good way but if you keep changing grits that can be a pain. There are times those sleeves have a burr on the edges. May help to take a piece of sandpaper and sand the edges some to give it a cone shape somewhat. The only time I use a drum sander like that is on my industrial drum sander and the rubber drums are slightly smaller and they always rely on the squeezing from the plate put on top and tightening the nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 What's the secret? Dump them and get a dedicated oscillating spindle sander! Sparkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 What's the secret? Dump them and get a dedicated oscillating spindle sander! I had to google that one. The pics on the net seem to show the same concept for changing sizes or grits, so I not sure what the advantage is? Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I had to google that one. The pics on the net seem to show the same concept for changing sizes or grits, so I not sure what the advantage is? As I posted in my response i too use a spindle sander or basically a larger drum sander. The sanding drums require you to use a plate and a nut to squeeze the drum so it snugs against the sleeve. They are always smaller in diameter than the sleeve so you change grits easier. With each size drum come with the proper end plates so it is always proportioned to that drum. They are more industrial and better quality. That is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I have small drum sanders that have a screw at the end of the arbor like a cut off wheel arbor. I loosen the screw to remove the old drum, replace the drum and tighten the screw which swells the rubber and tightens the drum. Perhaps you are referring to something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 You shouldn't be using any kind of lubricant, to get the sleeve over the drum. It might help to get the sleeve on the drum, but, there's just as much of a chance it will make removing the sleeve impossible. If it was mine, I would sand the drum just a bit. Try heating the sleeve and freezing the drum, that might make a big enough difference for it to work. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I have had this problem with small drums that are used in a Dremel type tool. I now stretch the sanding sleeve a bit by rotating a needle nosed pliers inside the new sanding sleeve. It then fits on the mandrel easier. LarryEA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Thanks Jim, sounds like a solution.... I have had this problem with small drums that are used in a Dremel type tool. I now stretch the sanding sleeve a bit by rotating a needle nosed pliers inside the new sanding sleeve. It then fits on the mandrel easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 I had one I couldn't get to work once and tried the freezer trick, but then forgot it in the freezer. My boyfriend was very confused when he went to get ice. hawkeye10 and WayneMahler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 I always keep a can of talcum powder on hand and sprinkle on the drum and it helps sleeve slide on. That was what I was going to suggest, great minds think a like. Marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye10 Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 I had one I couldn't get to work once and tried the freezer trick, but then forgot it in the freezer. My boyfriend was very confused when he went to get ice. Guys are like that when they are madly in love. I am talking about being confused. I maybe old but I can remember being young and in love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Guys are like that when they are madly in love. I am talking about being confused. I maybe old but I can remember being young and in love. yeah, it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 SOLVED After long arduous hours and hours of experimentation. {well it sounds good} Put the arbor in your drill press, and hold 400 grit sandpaper on it as it spins, sand the rubber down in stages, loosen the holding screw and at some point he paper drum just barely slides on the arbor and will tighten right up. Birchbark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 This sander is probably the best money I have spent in my shop. dave drawing.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye10 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 This sander is probably the best money I have spent in my shop. dave Dave I agree. This is a combination belt and spindle sander and I use it often. I do wish it was variable speed. I have had mine for about three years. http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Oscillating-Edge-Belt-Spindle-Sander-EB4424/100061671 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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