Bpardue Posted January 17, 2017 Report Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) I bought a a Jet air filtration unit back in November and installed it, but sense i do Intarsia I still have a lot of dust to deal with. So, my Christmas present was a Dust Collector for the shop. My shop is a single car garage. To install the collector I to doing the following: 1. Build an exterior closet on the back of the garage to house the unit do to the noise. - complete 2. Sense i have limited space - walls are wall to wall benches and wall hung open shelves &lumber racks. To get the pipes into the garage, I had to redesign the walls and build new wall hung cabinets & lumber storage. Once I get this completed than I need to paint or seal the cabinets. - in process 3. Than I can run all the piping for the collector and ground it. 4. Need to insulate & wire the closet 5. Still need to paint the exterior closet in the spring. Sense the weather has not been the greatest I have been moving every thing in the shop from 1 end to the other to have some room to move around & work. Oh - the other thing sense i took up a good portion of our small patio for the closet, the wife informed my that i will have to build a deck to make up for the patio. Missed an item. sense the shop has conditioned air I need to duct the air from the collector back into the shop through some kind of filter system To date I spent most likely over a grand for the collector and everything I have done so far. Still have 3 or 4 solid weekends of work before I am completed with the install. I will share some photos of the shop once complete. Collect will be tied into all my equipment in the shop. I can't wait to start using my scroll saw in my newly re-designed shop. Edited January 17, 2017 by Bpardue Quote
NC Scroller Posted January 17, 2017 Report Posted January 17, 2017 I have a dedicated shop that I thought I layed out great...not. Every time I bring in something new or different it turns into a redesign. I am always trying to improve dust collection, storage, or work flow. Last spring I started intarsia and I am still trying to setup an adequate sanding station. I doubt working on the shop will never end. Quote
Scrolling Steve Posted January 17, 2017 Report Posted January 17, 2017 Brian, when and if you finish up show us some pictures ! Quote
GrampaJim Posted January 17, 2017 Report Posted January 17, 2017 Wait until you actually try to hook up the big dust collector; fittings, connectors, hoses, piping and hangers are in your future. Quote
WayneMahler Posted January 17, 2017 Report Posted January 17, 2017 Shops are always a work in progress. You get new idea, read an article to make things simpler or cleaner. Someone you talk to the sources never end. I haven't change much in my shop for 3 years and really need to make some changes with storage and dust collection / filtration. More so filtration then collecting. Interested in seeing what you post as photos for this redesign. Best of luck. 125 CSL and Be_O_Be 2 Quote
hawkeye10 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Posted January 17, 2017 I bought a a Jet air filtration unit back in November and installed it, but sense i do Intarsia I still have a lot of dust to deal with. So, my Christmas present was a Dust Collector for the shop. My shop is a single car garage. To install the collector I to doing the following: 1. Build an exterior closet on the back of the garage to house the unit do to the noise. - complete 2. Sense i have limited space - walls are wall to wall benches and wall hung open shelves &lumber racks. To get the pipes into the garage, I had to redesign the walls and build new wall hung cabinets & lumber storage. Once I get this completed than I need to paint or seal the cabinets. - in process 3. Than I can run all the piping for the collector and ground it. 4. Need to insulate & wire the closet 5. Still need to paint the exterior closet in the spring. Sense the weather has not been the greatest I have been moving every thing in the shop from 1 end to the other to have some room to move around & work. Oh - the other thing sense i took up a good portion of our small patio for the closet, the wife informed my that i will have to build a deck to make up for the patio. Missed an item. sense the shop has conditioned air I need to duct the air from the collector back into the shop through some kind of filter system To date I spent most likely over a grand for the collector and everything I have done so far. Still have 3 or 4 solid weekends of work before I am completed with the install. I will share some photos of the shop once complete. Collect will be tied into all my equipment in the shop. I can't wait to start using my scroll saw in my newly re-designed shop. Brian I don't understand why you want the dust collector in a closet. Mine sets out in the shop in it's on space. My shop like your is very small and I wouldn't want to give up the space walls take. Quote
amazingkevin Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 Brian I don't understand why you want the dust collector in a closet. Mine sets out in the shop in it's on space. My shop like your is very small and I wouldn't want to give up the space walls take. here's his reason why...Build an exterior closet on the back of the garage to house the unit do to the noise. - complete Quote
Blaughn Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 When I retired last January, I decided to replace the cheap 1/8" pegboard with 1/4" top grade stuff and then install a Grizzly 0443 Cyclone dust collection system. First you move every tool from its familiar place, spend half your time looking for the tool that isn't where it used to be, put the tools on the new pegboard then take 1/3 down again to route the dust collection ductwork. It is like changing the tire on a moving car. The DC system is mostly functional but hooking it up to the miter saw, lathe and scroll saw are still a work in progress. I really love the floor sweeps, though. My grand kids love to sweep the floor just to watch it disappear. Bruce Quote
Bpardue Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Posted January 18, 2017 Finished building the face frames for the cabinets last night and started cutting the door slabs. Sense i decided to re-design the shop for the collector I am going to put a good finish on the long bench top in the shop. My other 2 bench tops are sealed. The reason the collector is going outside in a closet is because my shop is on the other side of the wall from the kitchen & living room and my wife says it is too loud to remain in the shop. Wayne- I have not redesign my shop sense i set it up over 5 years ago when i started scrolling. I'll take some photos hopefully this weekend & post them before leaving next week. I have a conference to go to in Kansas City. Quote
hawkeye10 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 here's his reason why...Build an exterior closet on the back of the garage to house the unit do to the noise. - complete Kevin I remember reading that it was on the out side but I for got it by the time I posted this. I am going down hill fast. trackman 1 Quote
hawkeye10 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 When I retired last January, I decided to replace the cheap 1/8" pegboard with 1/4" top grade stuff and then install a Grizzly 0443 Cyclone dust collection system. First you move every tool from its familiar place, spend half your time looking for the tool that isn't where it used to be, put the tools on the new pegboard then take 1/3 down again to route the dust collection ductwork. It is like changing the tire on a moving car. The DC system is mostly functional but hooking it up to the miter saw, lathe and scroll saw are still a work in progress. I really love the floor sweeps, though. My grand kids love to sweep the floor just to watch it disappear. Bruce Bruce this is what I did for my miter saw. The old throw rug keeps a lot of the fine dust from bouncing off the back and sides and coming out. The big Grizzly dust collector hooks up in the back and the shop vac hose hooks to the dust port on the saw. I always use both dust collectors. Hope this gives you some ideas. Blaughn 1 Quote
capcrnch Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 Every time I buy a new machine for the shop, I go through what i'm now calling a "re-tooling process"... ie Everything needs to get moved around to welcome the new player to the team.The downfall? The re-tooling process always takes appx 1-2 weeks longer than planned, and i'm so bad with it now, that i've started re-tooling for new machines from a scroll saw, to a new orbital sander. lolAnd yet, through 3 different processes over the past year, the shop is still no more organized now. Quote
Chiloquinruss Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) The first thing I thought of was DC and then I read this thread, seems I'm not alone! Russ Edited January 19, 2017 by Chiloquinruss Quote
NC Scroller Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 The first thing I thought of was DC and then I read this thread, seems I'm not alone! Russ Wow those are some VERY nice digs. Quote
zimmerstutzen Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Mrs. and I bought an 1860's farmhouse and spent years trying to fix it up. Every little modernization turned into major headaches. Rip out the crumbling horse hair plaster and lathing, insulate the walls, fir out the crooked studs to put up dry wall. But first replace the live knob and tube wiring with charred insulation that was found behind two walls. Replace the 50 yr old leaking copper pipes with modern pex tubing, only to have the faucets leak from the now full pressure. Tear off the shingles to replace the roof and find some idiot nailed shingles on top of slate on top of cedar shingles on a quarter of the roof. Have to run purlins and sheath the roof. Pull up old ragged plywood in half the kitchen, to find missing floor boards under neath. Random width tongue and groove pine floor boards no longer made. Rip out all floor boards and find out a floor joist is all dust from years of powder post beetles. Also discover, part of kitchen was originally a porch that was enclosed. Idiot that expanded kichen into porch just sawed off vertical studs that went up the wall from first floor to roof, so bathroom floor above starts sagging along exterior wall. And the fool that installed plumbing, put the 2nd floor cast iron soil pipe over the electric panel and then outside and down the exterior of the wall, where it freezes up every time the temps drop below zero for two days. Oh and even stranger, were the corked bottles of peculiar strange creamy yellow liquid found behind some boards in a closet. under the basement steps. .Behind the bottles was a kids shoe with wooden pegs holding the heel fast. Also a part of a halter with USA stamped brass pieces where the dried out leather straps crossed. When I pulled up the attic floor boards to insulate, there were numerous pairs of old ladies bloomers under the floor boards,. Really huge. A couple of pieces of mouse chewed lye soap and some old red glass lenses from some kind of lantern and a report card dated 1946. (I would have hidden it too based on the grades.) GrampaJim 1 Quote
Bpardue Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Posted January 23, 2017 as promised attached are some photos of my shop. 1st photo is an older photo I took a few years ago just i originally designed the shop Now this is my shop 3-4 years later Still need too build a few more cabinet doors this weekend, but the re-design is coming along great. With the majority of the work completed, I can get make to the scollsaw sense I have a few pieces to make for a couple of clients. Brian Quote
tomsteve Posted January 25, 2017 Report Posted January 25, 2017 im not sure if youre aware on the dc, you will be sucking air out of your shop, which will need make up air-a negative pressure will occure.if theres any furnace ducts out there, vents into the house, or any place air can pass between the 2,that can cause furnaces gasses to be backdrafted into the house while the dc is running. Quote
Bpardue Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Posted January 26, 2017 I am installing a "return" vent back in the shop from the dc to prevent any backdrafting. There are not any vents or exhaust duct that would be effected tomsteve 1 Quote
Rolf Posted January 26, 2017 Report Posted January 26, 2017 Some great looking shops! Tomsteve, good point about creating negative pressure in the house. With newer houses being so air tight it can create some real problems. I had an issue with it in my basement shop my digital CO monitor gave me a heads up that I had an issue. tomsteve 1 Quote
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