Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hello Group, I have been busy designing and cutting these Personalized napkin holders. They are: 1 for my wife and 3 for close friends. I chose not to put backers. Actually I have never used backers This was too much work as it is. I spent about 2 hours just for cutting each pair of sides. I was going slow. I stacked cut each pair of panels with FDUR #1. Remember the problem I was having with blades bending backward. I was working on these Now I am done with cutting, I am not sure how to finish them. I tried a few sample scrap pieces with different stains & just oils. I think I like the finished of red Mahogany. Would you please throw some advice my way? I appreciate the help Thank you Phantom Scroller, lawson56 and Lucky2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrolling Steve Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 That is some very nice cutting Sam !....I have used Red Mahogany on a couple of Tree of Life projects and really like the rich color ! Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Sam, with them looking as formal as they do, I think they would look best if painted white with another solid color for the edges. Len Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I agree with the paint idea. Since most napkins are white I suggest a rich, contrasting color. Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Wow, you did a beautiful job on those. They are superbly cut. I'm not sure what finish I would choose but if you do paint them, having the initials in a contrasting colour would be my suggestion. Rob Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hey Sam, that is some outstanding work! Something to consider for the future. If you are looking for a nice wood tone finish, use a nice hardwood. I think your napkin holders would look good using mahogany or walnut or Sapele. With a soaking in a boiled linseed oil/mineral spirits mix to bring out the natural color and grain of the wood, then a top coat of your choice. They would look fantastic! Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hi, Sam, Beautiful work!Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so, if you like the Red Mahogany, that should be fine. My preference would probably be Gunstock or Cherry stain so it isn't quite as dark as the Red Mahogany. With other people's suggestions to use contrasting colors, now that they are cut, you will probably have to wood-burn areas to stop one color from bleeding into the other area. I hope to see what your final decision is. God Bless! Spirithorse Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Myself i do not mess with paints and colors because they get messed up with time. I always make things out of red oak and use a Danish oil as my finish. If I do colors it is with natural woods and their different accents. danny, Sam777 and Phantom Scroller 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Nicely designed and very well cut Sam. Being you used a plywood my choice wood be to air brush them white (seal wood prior to painting). And maybe emphasize the letters with a different colour (sealing with a clear polyurethane). If these were cut out of a hardwood such as walnut or etc. I would then finish them with a rub on polyurethane. Edited February 5, 2017 by Ron Johnson Phantom Scroller and Sam777 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Nicely designed and very well cut Sam. Being you used a plywood my choice wood be to air brush them white (seal wood prior to painting). And maybe emphasize the letters with a different colour (sealing with a clear polyurethane). If these were cut out of a hardwood such as walnut or etc. I would then finish them with a rub on polyurethane. Good one Ron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hello Group, I have been busy designing and cutting these Personalized napkin holders. They are: 1 for my wife and 3 for close friends. I chose not to put backers. Actually I have never used backers This was too much work as it is. I spent about 2 hours just for cutting each pair of sides. I was going slow. I stacked cut each pair of panels with FDUR #1. Remember the problem I was having with blades bending backward. I was working on these Now I am done with cutting, I am not sure how to finish them. I tried a few sample scrap pieces with different stains & just oils. I think I like the finished of red Mahogany. Would you please throw some advice my way? I appreciate the help Thank you P1220278.JPGP1220279.JPGP1220280.JPGP1220281.JPGP1220282.JPG Love your creativity,i'll bet your in demand! Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I agree with the paint idea. Since most napkins are white I suggest a rich, contrasting color. i like the idea of white for napkin holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Myself i do not mess with paints and colors because they get messed up with time. I always make things out of red oak and use a Danish oil as my finish. If I do colors it is with natural woods and their different accents. John you are very good at what you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I can see some with a beautiful red oak,and some with a rich mahogany. Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Lovely holders. Roly Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munzieb Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Really great detail cuttings! White would be a great color also. I would first shellac first to smooth down the grain and paint and then consider lacquer. The smoothness will let the napkins slide out easier. Tung oil is also good. I made a few out of 1/2 inch oak from a scroller design a while back. Backers were a pain since I had to route out the material to make it flush. Used Shellac and Lacquer for finish. Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Very nice job on the cutting. I don't know what to suggest about the finish though. The problem with you picking out the finish is it may be what you like but maybe not the recipient. I think I might ask them what they would like. I prefer using solid wood for napkin holders and red oak in my favorite. One of the issues I see using plywood is no matter how you finish the edges you can always tell it is plywood but that's just me. LOL Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Very nice design and cutting. Can't help in the finish, so many choices. I personally would not paint them, because I would screw it up! Sam777 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Really great detail cuttings! White would be a great color also. I would first shellac first to smooth down the grain and paint and then consider lacquer. The smoothness will let the napkins slide out easier. Tung oil is also good. I made a few out of 1/2 inch oak from a scroller design a while back. Backers were a pain since I had to route out the material to make it flush. Used Shellac and Lacquer for finish. Just BEAUTIFUL, design and cutting. Due to the fact that these designs come out with very thin, I didn't think I can make all this cutting with oak without breaking many of them. I agree with you about the lack of smoothness for the napkin to slide easily. Next time I will use backers like you did. Did you recess the backer inside the frame? Very nice Thank you for the comments Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Very nice job on the cutting. I don't know what to suggest about the finish though. The problem with you picking out the finish is it may be what you like but maybe not the recipient. I think I might ask them what they would like. I prefer using solid wood for napkin holders and red oak in my favorite. One of the issues I see using plywood is no matter how you finish the edges you can always tell it is plywood but that's just me. LOL Al, I agree. The edges reduce the richness of the piece. I would like to use solid wood but the thin sections of this design may not like the 1/2 solid oak. Next time I will have to use 1/2 oak. Thank you for the comments Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Very nice design and cutting. Can't help in the finish, so many choices. I personally would not paint them, because I would screw it up! Paul, I feel the same way about using paint. I still have not decided how to finish these Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 That is some very nice cutting Sam !....I have used Red Mahogany on a couple of Tree of Life projects and really like the rich color ! Steve, Thank you for the compliment and the advice. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Sam, with them looking as formal as they do, I think they would look best if painted white with another solid color for the edges. Len Len, Thank you for the advice. I appreciate the comments. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I agree with the paint idea. Since most napkins are white I suggest a rich, contrasting color. Dan, Thank you for the reply and advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Wow, you did a beautiful job on those. They are superbly cut. I'm not sure what finish I would choose but if you do paint them, having the initials in a contrasting colour would be my suggestion. Rob Rob, Thanks for the compliments and advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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