Checking out a Hegner

[rdv464]

I'm looking at a Hegner Multimax 22, the saw is 18 yrs. old and the owner is asking 750.00. Not any extras with the saw just owners manual, 1 extra set of blade holders and that's it. I'm thinking it's a little to much, thought maybe some of the Hegner owners might have some idea, thanks

[hotshot]

These saws are very very expensive new, but I sometimes see these used in the $600s, but if the saw if in perfect condition, I might go $700s.  Did you mean Multimax 22v.  That v is for variable speed, and for me personally, I wouldn't consider it if it is not. I'm assuming that saw is already mounted to the stand?

If the saw looks to be in good shape, I would not worry about the age.  They have made very few changes to this saw over time, and every single part on that saw is available from Advanced Machinery.  You can always see if he will take $600 as it never hurts to ask.

 

Is this the saw you are looking at?  https://toledo.craigslist.org/tls/d/hegner-multimax-22v-scroll-saw/6282652901.html

If so, it is a 22v, comes on the stand, and at a glance, looks really good.  If I bought this saw, I would purchase the QuickClamp to use as the upper clamp from Advanced, but other than that, it looks like it is ready to go.  (I'm assuming it has the tool to tighten the bottom clamp, and if not, you would want to purchase that from Advanced as well).  This looks to be a couple of hours from you, so you lucked out there.

Saw hunting is fun, and I wish you the best as you consider your options.

 

Edited September 20, 2017 by hotshot

[Scrappile]

What Hotshot says.  I think that is a bit much for an 18 yo saw.  It would have to be in pristine condition.   Not a "V" no not worth it.  Do you have pictures??

I have a 22V and love it although it took some getting use to.  Mine will be running fine long after I am gone.  Hope my Daughter and grandson enjoy it.

Edited September 20, 2017 by Scrappile

[WayneG]

I had an 18 multimax and its cuts great but even with the quick clamp I still could not justify the time it took to do pieces with many inside cuts. From what I have seen of your work it does not seem like you do too much of the inside stuff it may very well be a good fit for you and your needs...

[heppnerguy]

Probably one of the best saws out there. Scrappile has had several saws and I would stick with his suggestions. A photo of the saw for the people on here to look at would probably be worth the wait on this saw. Then see what they have to say about it. You are talking about spending  quite a bit of money on this saw, you will want to be sure it is worth the bucks. My oppinion

Dick

heppnerguy

[tonylumps]

If it is the saw Hotshot is showing with the front tensioner I would jump on it That option he put on is about 190.00 retail that saw new is 1800.00 and new it will not run any better than the one you are looking at My Hegner was made in 1998 and I bought it last year it is an 18V with stand and front tensioner and I paid 700.00 for it and it works perfect.And if you want to touch up the paint on it Kubota  Tractor orange matches perfect.

[hotshot]

Not saying I'm recommending this Hegner, but it is very very interesting:  https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/d/hegner-polymax-3-scroll-saw/6308461284.html

That saw looks pristine, as it is about $3350 new, so $750 for a pristine Polymax is a steal.  This is the most expensive consumer scroll saw on the market.  This one is an additional 1.5 hours away.

These are built for production work, and are meant to handle the abuse of constant use.  Speeds are changed by "rolling the belts" from pully to to pully which is interesting in terms of reliability, but maybe not so much for usability.  I've heard some users of these saws say the speed changes via the belt are trivial.

I would love to try one of these.  Jim Finn has one, might have to drop by his house to give one a spin :-)

Edited September 20, 2017 by hotshot

[MrsN]

Hegners are really nice saws. They are built to last and are quite repairable. I bought a smaller one that was 25 years old, and it worked like new. 

If it still has the factory blade holders you will want to update to either the quick clamps or the quick release tension thing. 

I think 750 is a bit high, I would start considering it at about 600. 

Advanced Machinery is the go to place in the US for Hegners. https://advanced-machinery.myshopify.com/ they are super helpful people.

[rdv464]

Many thanks to all of you who replied on the Hegner saw, it is a 22v I forgot to put that on. Everyone can see the saw on Craigslist, Toledo OH. I had the fellow send me other pictures, table appears to have some pretty good scratches on the top, hard to say how deep they may be. Seller said his mother use to do crafts but stopped about 8 to10 years ago so it has sit except for a occasional cut on some wood by him or son. I'am thinking maybe offering 625.00!!! Thanks to all of you again 

 

 

 

[Scrappile]

FIRST, THIS IS YOUR FIRST POST.  WELCOME TO THE VILLAGE.  How much do you scroll, how much do you know about scroll saws?  I do not want to give you unneeded info. 

If you are looking at the one Hotshot in his first post, looks to be in very good shape.  The only thing I see missing is the under the table dust collection piece to hook a vac to.  Most people remove that, I did, didn't fit any vac I have.  He also doesn't show the tool to use with the lower blade camp to install the blades in the clamp.  This the tool, you should ask about it.
https://www.advmachinery.com/products/tuffwrench

and you would want to get one of these.  Worth every penny:

https://www.advmachinery.com/products/hegner-quickclamp

It says $750 or OBO .  I'd make an offer of around $600 ad be willing to go up a little more, but I would want to take it for a drive first.

Good luck. 

[Jim Finn]

On 9/20/2017 at 9:05 AM, hotshot said:

Not saying I'm recommending this Hegner, but it is very very interesting:  https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tls/d/hegner-polymax-3-scroll-saw/6308461284.html

That saw looks pristine, as it is about $3350 new, so $750 for a pristine Polymax is a steal.  This is the most expensive consumer scroll saw on the market.  This one is an additional 1.5 hours away.

These are built for production work, and are meant to handle the abuse of constant use.  Speeds are changed by "rolling the belts" from pully to to pully which is interesting in terms of reliability, but maybe not so much for usability.  I've heard some users of these saws say the speed changes via the belt are trivial.

I would love to try one of these.  Jim Finn has one, might have to drop by his house to give one a spin :-)

I have a Polymax-3 that I use every day for cutting 3/4" hard and soft woods.  I bought in new in 2008. I run this saw on it's slowest speed. I later ran across a Hegner  Multi-max -3 which is a single speed 25" saw.  It was made in 1986 and I paid $600 for it.  I have since purchased a 15"  1988 Jet scroll saw for $15 and use it a lot.   The 25" saw is stored under my bench as a back up.  The 15" jet is the smoothest running of the three.  The polymax only runs smoothly if bolted to the stand and the stand bolted to the concrete floor. All these saws have induction motors so will last a long time. I do not do fretwork,  but if I did, I would get a different saw with a quicker blade changing process.