Runa Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 I finally got screws to fit the plain end blades but it is so difficult to get them adjusted right and then screwed in and adjust tension on this 10 year old ryobi. Not sure if its because its a old saw or is that how it is in all modern saws? Getting the tension right is harder. Any tips would be appreciated. Getting the blade on and off is so time consuming:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Runa, please use this forum. Before you purchase your next "upgrade" saw, ask, ask, the people here. We have all been through this. My first saw was a Craftsman that I had to get on my knees to work the setup on the lower clamp. It took two tools to change a blade. I finally made a base for the saw with a hinge so I could life it up on it's side to change blades. Now, I had this Craftsman for years. I had to keep it, my wife bought it for me for a Christmas present... And, I made some things using it. But, when I got serious about scrolling, I knew I had to get something better. There are good buys on used saws out there,,, just ask for opinions before buying. I can almost guarantee somene on this forum can give you good advice on the saw, good and bad... Again, please to not take offense, I am only trying to help... Lots of experience here... use it. jollyred, stoney and SCROLLSAW703 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runa Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Scrappile said: Runa, please use this forum. Before you purchase your next "upgrade" saw, ask, ask, the people here. We have all been through this. My first saw was a Craftsman that I had to get on my knees to work the setup on the lower clamp. It took two tools to change a blade. I finally made a base for the saw with a hinge so I could life it up on it's side to change blades. Now, I had this Craftsman for years. I had to keep it, my wife bought it for me for a Christmas present... And, I made some things using it. But, when I got serious about scrolling, I knew I had to get something better. There are good buys on used saws out there,,, just ask for opinions before buying. I can almost guarantee somene on this forum can give you good advice on the saw, good and bad... Again, please to not take offense, I am only trying to help... Lots of experience here... use it. I was so looking forward to scrolling that i jumped on the one i saw. I was also misinformed about the saw and saw it after i got it home and next morning :(. Well atleast i dint lose more that 55$. I really want to make this easier or maybe i will get used to it. I will save up for a nice one as my skill progresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Looks to me like you have the skills from you other post. I just hope you will be take some time and ask questions before your next upgrade. SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 If you are familiar with craig's list I'm sure you will find any number of scroll saws. Delta, DeWalt, Heagner, Hawk, Excalibur saws are the ones to look at. They are the ones most used by the scrollers here. I may have missed a brand. Lots of good advise here. SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 runa, might I suggest you post a couple pictures of your blade holders so we can have a look see at your situation. Sometimes being able to see the issue can help us help you with a better way to work with your current equipment until you can afford a better saw. Another thought, there are blade conversion kits available for different breeds of saws. It'd be worth looking into. Try eReplacementParts.com & see what you can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runa Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Attached are pics of blade clamps. I will look i tp thw conversion kit to see if that will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowning Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Maybe this will work for you Runa? Conversion Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runa Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, jbrowning said: Maybe this will work for you Runa? Conversion Kit I thought it may work but looks like it has the same screw type to hold the blade down. in my currext saw the blade needs to be in a very specific place to get it to clamp properly and it is in the middle of the space so having to fiddle with it and screw to make it hold is a very frustrating part. I wonder if the conversion kit will solve that problem, not sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Runa, you mentioned in one of your first posts this saw & all its rust, & how bad a shape it was in. Just a thought, but, if the rest of the machine is that bad off, the blade holders are goin' to be just as bad, if not worse. Have you, by chance, taken the blade holders apart, if its possible, & by the looks of the one in your picture, it is, & thoroughly cleaned the inside of the blade holder? If there's rust or other junk in between there, not only will your blades not fit properly, nor will they tighten down enough to keep the blade in place. They need to be kept clean. Which brings me to my next point. While you have your blade holders apart, rub them on a piece of 100 grit sand paper. This will give the blade holder a grip to "bite" the blade & help hold it better. Like I said, just by lookin' at your pictures, this is just a thought. I may have to research your machine to verify my thinking. As far as the tension adjustment, what is so difficult about getting your tension correct? No offense, I'm not tryin' to be a smart a**, just trying to help you with your saw. Is the tension adjustment a hand knob @ the back of saw you twist either direction to tighten or loosen tension? does it have a flip up on the twist knob to release tension? If so, my first thought would be what shape are the threads in for adjustment? Are they rusted & corroded up? If so, that's an easy fix. Are the threads damaged from tryin' to force adjustment? Another easy fix if so. Without more information as to what or why you're havin' issues w/tension, one can only guess. My apologies for the length of my post, but I'm typin' as I'm thinkin' about your situation. Trust me, you're not the first to get bit in the a** on his first saw. Used at that. We'll try & help you out as much as possible to keep ya makin' sawdust. God Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runa Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 11:12 PM, SCROLLSAW703 said: Runa, you mentioned in one of your first posts this saw & all its rust, & how bad a shape it was in. Just a thought, but, if the rest of the machine is that bad off, the blade holders are goin' to be just as bad, if not worse. Have you, by chance, taken the blade holders apart, if its possible, & by the looks of the one in your picture, it is, & thoroughly cleaned the inside of the blade holder? If there's rust or other junk in between there, not only will your blades not fit properly, nor will they tighten down enough to keep the blade in place. They need to be kept clean. Which brings me to my next point. While you have your blade holders apart, rub them on a piece of 100 grit sand paper. This will give the blade holder a grip to "bite" the blade & help hold it better. Like I said, just by lookin' at your pictures, this is just a thought. I may have to research your machine to verify my thinking. As far as the tension adjustment, what is so difficult about getting your tension correct? No offense, I'm not tryin' to be a smart a**, just trying to help you with your saw. Is the tension adjustment a hand knob @ the back of saw you twist either direction to tighten or loosen tension? does it have a flip up on the twist knob to release tension? If so, my first thought would be what shape are the threads in for adjustment? Are they rusted & corroded up? If so, that's an easy fix. Are the threads damaged from tryin' to force adjustment? Another easy fix if so. Without more information as to what or why you're havin' issues w/tension, one can only guess. My apologies for the length of my post, but I'm typin' as I'm thinkin' about your situation. Trust me, you're not the first to get bit in the a** on his first saw. Used at that. We'll try & help you out as much as possible to keep ya makin' sawdust. God Bless. Thanks for the post. I had to file down a new screw to fit. The difficulty was to align the saw within reach of the screw end. It was just taking way too much time especially the small #3 blade. I just found it frustrating because the process of aligning was not simple but also i was new at this (pin end was simple, it hooks). For the design i picked (a lot of inside cuts), it got annoying real fast because i was spending a lot more time fixing the damn blade than sawing. But as i do more i am getting used to it and yes its still time consuming but i will deal with it SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Ha, be patient, it gets better and it is worth the pain. You are working your way in and up as we all did. Pretty soon you will be a nut like the rest of us and it will consume your life, well at least when you are old like me. Runa and SCROLLSAW703 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 7:53 PM, Runa said: I was so looking forward to scrolling that i jumped on the one i saw. I was also misinformed about the saw and saw it after i got it home and next morning :(. Well atleast i dint lose more that 55$. I really want to make this easier or maybe i will get used to it. I will save up for a nice one as my skill progresses. Some of the best years of my life was on inferior saws.Not knowing there was better out there.I had a blast being creative .When i traded some scroll work and intarsias for a dw788 ,I got it home plugged it in and flipped the switch on .Waiting for the noise to start i flipped the switch again.Low an behold the saw was running and silent as could be .I was astonished that a scroll saw could be this quite.The years on cheap saws sure made moving up such a pleasure.I wouldn't have had it any other way. Runa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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