Dave Monk Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 I bit the bullet............I guess I am going to have to learn to be bottom feeder like many of you. After looking and asking a lot of questions about many saws I decided on a Hegner. Ordered it on Friday. After wearing out two Dewalts in less than two years I decided that I had better get one that is built more for commercial use. What made me decide on this saw is that when I called them they told me it had a one year satisfaction warranty and a seven year warranty on parts and labor. I guess this old dog is going to have to learn new tricks. OCtoolguy and MTCowpoke22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Congrads Dave. I can tell you one thing you will probably not do is wear your new Hegner out. What model did you buy? Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Be patient, my man. The Hegner is a different saw. Took me a while to learn it, but for me worth every second it took. Stoney has some great mods for one also. I have the larger table top now the next is to fix the upper arm so it raises higher when the blade is released. Here is the forum where he explains the upper arm mod. I made my larger aux table top out of 1/8" masonite. Works great and easy to take off and put on. It is a great saw! Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Dave, just remembered that Hotshot commented in my album wanting to know how I bottom feed in the center area of some larger pictures. This was my answer, for what it is worth: "My pictures are not near as big as Charles Dearing does. The biggest I have done in in the 16" x 14" size most less that that. I just lift the board up at a slant, find the hole and insert the blade. I use very small blades #2/0 or #1 and they are very flexible so it is easy to start them is a hole on a slanted board. I also have a tool with a point on it that I counter sink the holes on the back side, which helps a lot. I am going to modify my Hegner so the top arm will lift higher also. And the bigger table top I have on it now is a great improvement." stoney and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjweb Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Congrats on the new saw, were they in stock or do you have to wait for them to build, (pick the wheat in the fields), will be waiting for the review, RJ Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Dave.Did you order extra bottom blade holders. I have a couple of the mid size holders and they work just fine for all except for the smallest of the blades.Most of my cutting is done with FDUR 3 or 5 and I keep them loaded up.You will break a few blades in the beginning.But once you get the touch for tension that will stop .Except for normal blade wear.If you do use the thinnest than the smaller clamps are what you will need.It is a learning curve.But i had the Hegner long before the EX so I kind of learned to saw on it.And it does come natural.And if your New saw gets chips in the paint.Kubota orange is a perfect match. Edited October 15, 2017 by tonylumps Dave Monk and Lucky2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmansbike Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Congrats Dave. I am looking to get a new scroll saw sometime next year so I'm hoping you will review your saw here. I have a 21 year old RBI Hawk now and it has never gave me any trouble that wasn't my fault. I don't know if I want another Hawk or a Hegner. Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Dave,,, think "quick clamp". A must have accessory! https://www.advmachinery.com/products/hegner-quickclamp stoney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Congrats Dave. I have heard a lot of good stuff about Hegner. I used to hang out at the Woodworking Show when it came to town and they were always there. They guy who demo'd them could cut reindeer earrings without even looking down at what he was doing. That always impressed me. Anyway, good luck with the new saw. I sure hope I get better service out of my old used Type 1. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Spoiler Here's the package I ordered. 22-V Value Package which, in addition to the stand, includes the Hegner QuickClamp, our Footswitch, ourHLX6 Magnifier Lamp Edited October 15, 2017 by Dave Monk OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Sorry........for some reason my previous post some crazy window came up that I had never seen before. This is the package I ordered. Yes they are in stock and I should have it by the end of the week. 22-V Value Package which, in addition to the stand, includes the Hegner QuickClamp, our Footswitch, ourHLX6 Magnifier Lamp SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Dave, I think you done good sir! The lamp is expensive, yes, but I have a similar one that I paid well over $100 for. I have never regretted it. I also have a $40 florescent one with plastic lenses. It works okay, but I always got a headache if I looked through it for very long. I purchased the LED one with glass lenses and there is a huge difference. I have Glaucoma, so I am pretty sensitive about my eyes, and as much time as I spend peering through a magnifier/light, it is worth the extra money to me. You have a great saw coming. I think I am more excited than you are!! I purchased mine through them. They had one "demo" for $100 dollars off. I thought a Demo meant it was only 1 year old, but after I bought it and researched it more,, it is a 2010 model! So it was 5 years old!! They had a free shipping internet special and I had to talk them into letting me have the free shipping.... They got me, but no regrets here. It is a great saw, they won that one, but I had no problems with it. If I could have only one saw, it would be the Hegner I would keep. Ha, ha,ha,,,,Dave is coming over to the dark side,,,he is going to be a bottom feeder!!! Edited October 15, 2017 by Scrappile SCROLLSAW703 and Dave Monk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I have never gotten the hang of top feeding, I guess I am just a natural bottom feeder. SCROLLSAW703 and Dave Monk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 12 hours ago, Scrappile said: Dave, I think you done good sir! The lamp is expensive, yes, but I have a similar one that I paid well over $100 for. I have never regretted it. I also have a $40 florescent one with plastic lenses. It works okay, but I always got a headache if I looked through it for very long. I purchased the LED one with glass lenses and there is a huge difference. I have Glaucoma, so I am pretty sensitive about my eyes, and as much time as I spend peering through a magnifier/light, it is worth the extra money to me. You have a great saw coming. I think I am more excited than you are!! I purchased mine through them. They had one "demo" for $100 dollars off. I thought a Demo meant it was only 1 year old, but after I bought it and researched it more,, it is a 2010 model! So it was 5 years old!! They had a free shipping internet special and I had to talk them into letting me have the free shipping.... They got me, but no regrets here. It is a great saw, they won that one, but I had no problems with it. If I could have only one saw, it would be the Hegner I would keep. Ha, ha,ha,,,,Dave is coming over to the dark side,,,he is going to be a bottom feeder!!! Scrappile you know these saws are timeless 1 5 or 20 YO they are the same .That is why when you buy a used Hegner you have no problems at all and very low Maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, tonylumps said: Scrappile you know these saws are timeless 1 5 or 20 YO they are the same .That is why when you buy a used Hegner you have no problems at all and very low Maintenance. They had a couple of used saws that I could have purchased. Buying a new saw with a one year satisfaction and a seven year guarantee was worth the extra $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Monk said: They had a couple of used saws that I could have purchased. Buying a new saw with a one year satisfaction and a seven year guarantee was worth the extra $500. Dave the motor alone cost more than a Dewalt saw.So the piece of mind is worth it.Even though these are very Robust motors.Things happen.My saw was built in 1998.Touch wood.Still going strong. Very quiet no vibration what so ever.When you get your saw,put a blade in it,adjust the tension.You are going to laugh at how quiet it is.Advance is a good place to deal with to.I have been dealing with them for years .I have a Tormek sharpening system .That is where i get my parts for that also. Edited October 16, 2017 by tonylumps Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfreeman Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Congrats Dave welcome to the Hegner world . I have been happy with both of my Hegners for about 20 years. I’ve tried other brands but I would never change. Bill Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Dave I found this information for you on beginner's learning to do headstands: https://www.doyouyoga.com/a-beginners-guide-to-headstands-14010/ plus apparently, there are a large number of Youtube Vidoes on the subject as well Just take your time and make sure the saw is against a wall and you "lean" against the saw for support until you get it right and gain enough core strength to do without the support. Of course you are going to need to do it with your front facing against the saw/wall rather than your back so you can actually "see" to insert the blades unless you also want to learn to become a contortionist. When i was young, I could do headstands all day, no support but now - after 2 cervical fusions, I try to stay off my head. Congratulations to you on your new saw. I look forward to hearing about your learning/working with it. i hear its a great saw from some great experts around here so I hope you will be happy with it. Edited October 17, 2017 by meflick fixing a typo or two Dave Monk and wombatie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 10 hours ago, meflick said: Dave I found this information for you on beginner's learning to do headstands: https://www.doyouyoga.com/a-beginners-guide-to-headstands-14010/ plus apparently, there are a large number of Youtube Vidoes on the subject as well Just take your time and make sure the saw is against a wall and you "lean" against the saw for support until you get it right and gain enough core strength to do without the support. Of course you are going to need to do it with your font against the saw/wall rather than your back so you can actually "see" to insert the blades unless you also want to learn to become a contortionist. When i was young, I could do headstands all day, no support but now - after 2 cervical fusions, I try to stay off my head. Congratulations to you on your new saw. I look forward to hearing about your learning/working with it. i hear its a great saw from some great experts around here so I hope you will be happy with it. I must say you brought a smile to my face reading your post. Thanks meflick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 DO NOT LISTEN TO HER DAVE! It is only 1/2 that bad!! Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Oh Dave, I am so jealous. I missed out on a second hand Hegner a while ago and now the DeWalt I picked up has died on me. So I am back to my faithful Delta Q3. Hegner is not sold in NZ so I would have to buy from Australia and pay $400 import duties on top of the saw which puts it out of my reach. I'm sure you have made a great choice and look forward to hearing how you get on with it once it arrives. All the best, Rob meflick and Dave Monk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam777 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Congrats Dave. Now will even do better work Sam Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, tonylumps said: Dave the motor alone cost more than a Dewalt saw.So the piece of mind is worth it.Even though these are very Robust motors.Things happen. For the cost, Hegner should give the motor that same 7 yr warrantee. But, the motor, switch, speed control, wiring are only one year. These are the components most likely to fail in the short term. These motors are pretty good in general, so one year on those componets sends the wrong message. If you keep it oiled, there is not much else to go wrong on a Hegner. I think all Hegner’s besides the Polymax use the same motor, so if my motor goes at some point, I would steal the motor from the 14”, and junk that saw. I’m curious about one of the features labeled “dual dynamic tensioning”. It says tension can be adjusted while the saw is running full speed. Are they talking about trying to grab that back knob and turn it? If that is what they are talking about, at 1700 spn, that sounds possible perhaps, but unpleasant. Edited October 17, 2017 by hotshot stoney and Dave Monk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 I have been a bottom feeder since day dot. It came natural to me but I would hate to learn how to top feed now, I feel for you Dave. Marg Dave Monk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 8:11 PM, MrsN said: I have never gotten the hang of top feeding, I guess I am just a natural bottom feeder. When I bought my first single speed Delta, I had to bottom feed, but once I got the DeWalt, it took me all of about three entry holes to learn to top feed. I have the occasional hole that doesn't want to take the blade of one reason or another, but a 1/16" drill bit generally cures that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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