Kragax Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I have been trying to find information on this. I have found ads for pattern books but everything is too small for my aged eyes. From what I can tell it looks like a pattern is cut out and then pushed forward from the background and most likely glued that way. Does anyone have experience with this? I hate to order the book from looking at a thumbnail of the cover, because being on a fixed income doesn't give me a lot of wiggle room. It looks interesting but I have never seen a piece like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 You can relief cut must anything. I made a box with a heart relief cut on the lid. (Wish I had the picture) Much like inlay, you set the blade at an angle based on the blade and thickness of the wood. When the cut is completed, you push the object up and glued in place. I know this is a simple explanation. I am sure others will chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 The topic title made me wonder if people were setting on the toilet cutting.. I've never hear of this term before with scroll sawing.. other than stress relief cutting.. bobscroll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Craig, I've done some inlays where the table is tilted a few degrees. You can do the same technique but with the table tilted a little more to allow the cut piece to wedge in place. A small amount of glue will hold it in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crupiea Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Kragax said: Here is one I did recently like that. Phantom Scroller, bobscroll and kmmcrafts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Greetings, You have the right concept of the relief cutting and can find two free simple patterns at stevegood.com/catalog if you search for Simple Nativity and Relief Cut Cross. Another scroller has also taken this to new limits by relief cutting scenes or animals and then shaping the portions that are pushed forward so that the entire project looks carved instead of relief cut. As Denny Knappen stated. You determine what angle to set the blade by the thickness of your wood and the thickness/kerf of the blade. Several members here can supply you with charts for different dimensions so you don't have to do a lot of math. I hope you try some projects and show us! God Bless! Spirithorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Kragax, it would help if you told us the name of the books, if we had the names we might be able to help you out more. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragax Posted October 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 The book I was looking at was Scrollsaw Relief by Marilyn Carmin. I think I would like to give it a try. Just don't want to spend money on a book I cant see very well LOL. I was interested in the deer head on the cover. In the right wood it would be very pretty I think. Thank You all for your responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragax Posted October 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 11 hours ago, spirithorse said: Greetings, You have the right concept of the relief cutting and can find two free simple patterns at stevegood.com/catalog if you search for Simple Nativity and Relief Cut Cross. Another scroller has also taken this to new limits by relief cutting scenes or animals and then shaping the portions that are pushed forward so that the entire project looks carved instead of relief cut. As Denny Knappen stated. You determine what angle to set the blade by the thickness of your wood and the thickness/kerf of the blade. Several members here can supply you with charts for different dimensions so you don't have to do a lot of math. I hope you try some projects and show us! God Bless! Spirithorse Thank you I will check those patterns out today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackM Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I have this book and the patterns are full page size, two pages in some instances and the deer head pattern is on three full size pages. If you buy the book I don't think that you'll be disappointed Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragax Posted October 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 hours ago, JackM said: I have this book and the patterns are full page size, two pages in some instances and the deer head pattern is on three full size pages. If you buy the book I don't think that you'll be disappointed Jack Thanks Jack, does it have a table to explain the tilt of the table required? I don't know how to figure that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Here is a self framing pattern I posted in "New Patterns". In retrospect, I should have changed the angle to 4 degrees, not 6 as shown on the pattern. That cut was made with a FD UR # 3. Blade width will also be a factor. Kragax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 19 hours ago, crupiea said: What a piece of art this is .. .I can't believe how nice this sign truly is.. love it Dick heppnerguy crupiea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Kragax said: The book I was looking at was Scrollsaw Relief by Marilyn Carmin. I think I would like to give it a try. Just don't want to spend money on a book I cant see very well LOL. I was interested in the deer head on the cover. In the right wood it would be very pretty I think. Thank You all for your responses. I'd try searching for the ISBN ( book number ).. search google and I've bought several used books from Barns&Noble.. they have a used section but its goofy how to get to it or it was the last time I used it.. Anyway.. many of these books can be had for just a few bucks.. Sometimes shipping is more than the book.. but in the end still much cheaper than a "New" book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) There are a couple book stores on ebay also, that are connected to GoodWell some how. I have gotten great prices, great books and great service every time I have purchased one from them. Edited October 18, 2017 by Scrappile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Relief cutting adds another dimension. Not all cuts are always cut at the same angle. It'll depend on pattern and thickness of wood. The book you're referring to should indicate set angle. I've attached a sample. Wood is Tiger Wood, 1" in thickness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 This link will give you a preview of the book. https://www.amazon.com/Scroll-Saw-Relief-Patterns-Included/dp/1565231074#reader_1565231074 Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Amazon also offers many books used. Right at the price it will show new and used. The used are also graded from excellent to poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Here is a nice protractor I posted quite some time ago. Resize as needed and laminate it. I glued mine on 1/8" ply. Cut the bottom outside the line and sand to the line. Also, cut a small notch at zero degrees. Tilt the piece from behind a tensioned blade and pull the top forwards you & set your angle. I really like mine. ProtractorOne.pdf kmmcrafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Okay, not that is some pretty neat stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_M Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Roberta Moreton said: Amazon also offers many books used. Right at the price it will show new and used. The used are also graded from excellent to poor. I like ABE books - it's a worldwide network of book dealers. I was able to get a library of metalworking books from England that are unavailable in the states, and shipping was very cheap. Just like Amazon you'll find some crazy price ranges but it's easy to sort by price. https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&an=&tn=scroll+saw+relief+patterns&kn=&isbn= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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