Rolf Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Has anyone been in touch with them?. For purchase or questions. Have they been at any of the events this summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 What is a sand flee? OCtoolguy and SCROLLSAW703 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 50 minutes ago, Rockytime said: What is a sand flee? They are a tiny little bug that will bite the daylights out of you if you fall asleep in the sand. Ha! Ray Doug, tomsteve and meflick 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredfret Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 A sand Flee is a flat bed sander in either 9" or 18" width. They use velcro backed paper/cloth and have fences, chuck adapters and other accessories. RJR studios sells them and so did Woodcraft (not sure they still do.). I have not had a reason to contact then so I don't know if they are still in bussiness or not Sorry Rolk. Fredfret Wichita, Ks tomsteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Rockytime said: What is a sand flee? Expensive also: https://www.rjrstudios.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html tomsteve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 A drum sander. Thanks, I get it. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Wayyyyy too expensive and always has been. For what it does. A performax drum sander can do the same and do much much more for less. Never could see the fascination for these. But everyone is different. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Stockroom Supply offers a cheaper sander that works the same as the Sand Flea, and a DIY version where they sell the drum, bearings, belt, and pulleys, and plans to build the rest yourself using your own 1/2 or 3/4 hp motor. I built their 24" version and it works very well, but their plans were a bit rough. However, the only critical part is building the table and getting it perfectly flat. I built two. The second top that I build is usable, but it's not quite perfect. I may buy a ready made flat top from them for it. The Sand Flea or Stockroom Supply sander concept works quite well and I have used mine a lot. Centrifical force of the spinning drum expands the Velcro attached sand paper on the drum and this increased diameter is what actually does the sanding. The sand paper barely touches the work surface when the drum is not spinning. To adjust the rate of material removal, you change the grit of the sand paper. It leaves a very flat and smooth surface. http://stockroomsupply.ca/shop/drum-sanders.html https://www.rjrstudios.com/store/p3/SAND-FLEE®_18"_Portable_Drum_Sander.html Charley OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just ordered the Stockroom Supply Flatmaster drum sander. Can't wait til it arrives. It was my splurge from my craft sale earnings!!! Will review once I have used it!. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Barb, I am anxious to read your review. I've been thinking about the 18" or 24"kit. Make my own cabinet to mount it in. There is a 36" kit for sale at a pretty good price, about 200 miles from me, nice day trip in the Spring or Summer, but I just don't have the room nor real need for one that big. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 OK I have to ask. What do you guys use the sand flee for?? What is the main purpose of it?? Just trying to understand this need for this expensive tool. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 I built one and made all the parts. It is powered by my Shopsmith. It cost me less than $50 to build. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blights69 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Why they call it flea ?? would make me itch everytime I use it or is it because you scratch your head for years after you have purchased it at that price OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 3:36 PM, Rolf said: Has anyone been in touch with them?. For purchase or questions. Have they been at any of the events this summer? Lucky rich you to afford one OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 I have a Sandflea. I don’t use it as much as I thought I would. OCtoolguy and Jim Finn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsteve Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 12/14/2017 at 4:59 PM, Scrappile said: Expensive also: https://www.rjrstudios.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html wowzer!!! a grizzley 18" open end drum sander is $895 https://www.grizzly.com/products/18-1-1-2-HP-Single-Phase-Open-End-Drum-Sander/G0458 quite a few other options for drum sanders at that price! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 I have a Sand Flee and use it on almost every project, especially fretwork. Removes fuzzies! OCtoolguy and NC Scroller 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Finn Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Roberta Moreton said: I have a Sandflea. I don’t use it as much as I thought I would. I have the stockroom "V" sander, they call it. Much like the sand flea. I do not use it at all anymore. It is stuffed under my bench. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poupster2 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just found a review of the Stockroom Supply Flatmaster drum sander on lumber jocks. Sounds very interesting!!! http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/3709 OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don in brooklin on Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 I have the Flatmaster. I bought it preassembled and added a motor. It was on sale at a show and it still cost close to $500 CDN with motor and taxes. I use to take fuzzies off the back of some projects and to final sand the wood I planed. It works real well. Once use I found is when I make a box I make the 4 sides and then cut the top off with the table saw. Run top and bottom over the flat master and it fits nice and square. If I had the space I would have a drum sander too. Dave Monk, Jim Finn and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted December 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) I just looked at the Grizzley 18" video I really don't like how they install and clamp the paper. The paper stretches a bit after being used for a while. and there is no compensation for that. I am also not too sure about the table coming up VS the drum moving up and down, I would like to see an independent review on that aspect.It sure does have a nice price point. . I had been looking at the small jet bench top but it's reviews were not great at that time. I did a lot of research before buying the Supermax 19-38 drum sander. I was pointed in it's direction by Carole Rothman. It is more money but has been amazing right out of the box. Here are the specs for it. https://www.supermaxtools.com/products/wood/19-38-drum-sander-71938-d/ I have sanded down to the 1/32 they claim making my own veneer. Also changing the sandpaper is tool less and the end clamp provides constant tension to keep the paper tight. Just more food for thought. Edited December 20, 2017 by Rolf OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) JT the Sand-Flee style of sander can do lots of things a regular drum sander can not. First off it is not a thickness sander. There is no height limit to what it can sand., so if you have a box it is very easy to sand all sides., I use mine to flatten the backs of my intarsia assemblies. I also carefully sand some of my finished fretwork with the mop that I have on the output shaft and also on the flat. I used to pre-sand all of my ornament blanks on it, half of the drum has 180 the other 220. A couple of passes over each grit did the trick. But now that I also have the Supermax I pre-sand an entire 50 inch long strip with 220 grit through it, saves me a ton of time. This video is a bit too much like an Infomercial, and I have told him that, so look past that as it still shows some of its capabilities. There are lots of videos showing this style of sander. Price wise it is a bit of a luxury tool but very well made with a smooth direct drive motor. Mine does get constant use as do most of my tools. I am a bit of a tool junkie. and lucky to have the resources to accommodate my urges. The limiting factor now is space. These are my unbiased opinions and I get nothing from any of the manufacturers Edited December 20, 2017 by Rolf OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Rolf a drum sander can do much more than a sandflee in my opinion. To be able to dimension wood is a hugeeeeeeeeeeeee plus in my book. A random orbital sander or pad sander can do exactly what you mentioned a sandflee can do. To me it is a waste of money for what it does. When they first came out I could never figure the fascination of it. Still can not but if there are good sales pitches out there then they will sell. I presand all my project wood to at least 180 and final sand to 220. Drum sander and pad sander is all I need. Just a note whenever you sand in a straight line the lines are visible thus the random orbital sander was invented. Good luck though. Edited December 20, 2017 by JTTHECLOCKMAN OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 I do not have the Sand Flee but have a home made version. It does things a random orbit sander can not do. I use it for making boxes and smoothing out finger joint or dovetail corners. I use it for a lot of things. I People have all kinds of tools that they find useful to them. I would never tell anyone that a tool they bought and use regularly is a waste of money. It might not be useful to me but great for them. Rolf is very accomplished and experienced and to him it is a very useful tool. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 A man cannot have too many tools. I have some that may not get used at all. But, it the need arises and it gets me out of a jam, then it has paid for itself. I sold tools for a living and I'm a firm believer in this. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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