kmmcrafts Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 I notice that on my Hawk 220VS the tension lever somewhat pops back up some while sawing.. Anyone know of an adjustment for these older saws? My newer Ultra saw has a set screw type thing where I can adjust this.. Don't see that I this old saw.. and I'm thinking this would be part of the blade breakage issue.. as this moves up some the tension weakens slightly.. my Ultra locks down.. while this old 220 doesn't " Lock ".. Not sure if they locked like that new on the early ones or not.. but either way this one isn't right the way it loosens up the tension... OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: I notice that on my Hawk 220VS the tension lever somewhat pops back up some while sawing.. Anyone know of an adjustment for these older saws? My newer Ultra saw has a set screw type thing where I can adjust this.. Don't see that I this old saw.. and I'm thinking this would be part of the blade breakage issue.. as this moves up some the tension weakens slightly.. my Ultra locks down.. while this old 220 doesn't " Lock ".. Not sure if they locked like that new on the early ones or not.. but either way this one isn't right the way it loosens up the tension... Kevin not sure what old is any more but I have a Hawk 220VS and a 226VS Never had a problem with the back lever poping up. I do not have the barrel clamps. I have the newer ones. There is a flat spot on the lever and it lays flat on the triangle wedge all the way. Make sure. There should be no play in that cam when blade is tight. I really do not mess with that setting any more. My adjustment is when I place a blade in the bottom holder and install holder, I swing the top part of the blade into top holder and top of blade touches top of blade holder every time. If I have to switch to a different blade I usually have to cut some of the blade off to make fit just so I do not touch that back adjustment. Works for me. I will say this that lever works its way toward the arm and sometimes it will chatter against that. I placed a piece of foam rubber so this does not happen. That is about all I can tell you. You can tighten the bottom nut on the rod to make it more stiffer. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: Kevin not sure what old is any more but I have a Hawk 220VS and a 226VS Never had a problem with the back lever poping up. I do not have the barrel clamps. I have the newer ones. There is a flat spot on the lever and it lays flat on the triangle wedge all the way. Make sure. There should be no play in that cam when blade is tight. I really do not mess with that setting any more. My adjustment is when I place a blade in the bottom holder and install holder, I swing the top part of the blade into top holder and top of blade touches top of blade holder every time. If I have to switch to a different blade I usually have to cut some of the blade off to make fit just so I do not touch that back adjustment. Works for me. I will say this that lever works its way toward the arm and sometimes it will chatter against that. I placed a piece of foam rubber so this does not happen. That is about all I can tell you. You can tighten the bottom nut on the rod to make it more stiffer. JT, I was talking about the front cam lever.. not the lever at the back of the saw.. I do the same as you for that lever at the back.. the front cam lever is the one that pops up some after tension the blade on my old 220VS it's old 1993 with barrel style clamps.. My newer one that cam lever goes down and locks and the handle is right against the upper arm.. my old one you push it down but it raises back up a good 1/4 inch and while sawing comes up some more.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH See I misread this as I have been doing lately. I have had the front lever pop up before and had ordered a new one. There is a plastic bushing and it wears out. Easy to replace. Pop roll bearing out and new one comes with the kit. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH See I misread this as I have been doing lately. I have had the front lever pop up before and had ordered a new one. There is a plastic bushing and it wears out. Easy to replace. Pop roll bearing out and new one comes with the kit. So you replace the lever? or just take the thing apart and replace that plastic bushing? I looked in my manual but the exploded parts view is a little less confusing as to what is really in there.. I'll have to call Bushton and talk to them.. I'm sure they know exactly whats going on and what I need to order.. Thanks JT OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted January 8, 2018 Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Here are all the pieces that came with the kit. I saved the old one in case--- I am sure they still have this kit because all their saws are based on this setup. Sorry I do not have a part number. But as I said pop the roller pin out and it will fall out. An easy fix. I was wrong about a plastic bushing it is metal on metal. Not sure if they modified it. My new one had some sort of plastic caulk for a lack of a better word but guess this wears away. Now if the handle is just spinning and does not lock then there is the setscrew than may have come lose. You see that in the photo also. And here are all the pieces I ever bought for my RBI saws. I usually buy 2 of each because I have 2 saws. I use to replace those plastic bottom clamp holders because they would stretch over time but i have since replaced with a spring steel piece so no more of those. The articulating hose is the upgrade for the older saws because they all just had the plastic hose that was cut at a 45 and stopped. These you can position the dust away from you. I am sure all saws have this adapter. Edited January 8, 2018 by JTTHECLOCKMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2018 Thank you for those pictures, Gives me an idea of what I need to do to repair this.. I have replaced my lower blade holder plastic piece as shown in the one photo.. I also did that upgrade to the adjustable hose.. Just need to repair that tension mechanism I guess.. These Hawks are hard to beat.. very simple and reliable.. I'll give Bushton a call and get the parts ordered in the next few days.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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