heppnerguy Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 I just came off Steve Good's site and saw where he posted that the EX 21 is coming back on the market once more and that it is available from Home Depoe now. If you wish to check this out. Steve Goods site is www.scrollsawworkshop.blogspot.com Dick heppnerguy OCtoolguy and lawson56 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) I bet that is not going to last. I do not believe I see any more scrollsaws in Home Depot. Maybe an on line item. Boy next time I am in Homer I have to take a gander at what they sell. $900 saw in HD. odd. Edited January 25, 2018 by JTTHECLOCKMAN WayneMahler and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) I hate to be negative but I think the jury is still out. While it is called an EXCALIBUR and looks like one I hope it is of equal or better quality then the old ones. I own and love my EXCALIBUR so I hope the answer is yes. Edited January 25, 2018 by NC Scroller OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, NC Scroller said: I hate to be negative but I think the jury is still out. While it is called an EXCALIBUR and looks like one I hope it is of equal or better quality then the old ones. I own and love my EXCALIBUR so I hope the answer is yes. I also have concerns, but not so much on quality. Seyco bet their business on these guys, and boy did they pay when the channel dried up. I don't know what it would take to get Seyco to sell the EX again. If they do not support the new saws, then that hurts the EX badly. Now Seyco has their own branded saw, they probably don't see any reason of taking a chance on General again. If there isn't a good support model around the Excalibur brand, might as well go with the King/Excelsior. This might be a good opportunity for another "Seyco" to arise and take that business. I got my hands on a Seyco, and it is a good saw, but it is not a better saw in my opinion. Given a choice, I like the Ex. I noticed that Rockler also is carrying the EX as is Sears. Home Depot has always carried more stuff online than they do in their stores, and carried the EX prior, as well as just junk Chinese brands. Patents are only good for 20 years, so I think a lot of the patents are expiring, including the ones for the DW788. How cool would it be to see someone tweak the design of the 788 and put some quality bearings in that design. That could be a game changer. ---------Randy Edited January 25, 2018 by hotshot JTTHECLOCKMAN, stoney, amazingkevin and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 We will all learn as time goes, if Steve Good is right about this. I am in hopes that the EX16k will be as good as the EX has been until it jumped off the market. I am going to hold my breath and wait and see what happens here. I like that it is a possibility and I am not going to go against the grain, myself until I hear some reports. I also think it would be a little far fetched to see Seyco selling it, after having put their own brand on the market. Although Seyco is known for their great service does not mean there can be others with the same commitment just waiting for the right timing to come along.. By the same token, jumping to conclusions before it is on the market is perhaps like those that said Apple is dead because of Microsoft taking over the computer market a few years back while watching Apple struggle to hold onto their share of the market. Dick heppnerguy OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted January 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, NC Scroller said: I hate to be negative but I think the jury is still out. While it is called an EXCALIBUR and looks like one I hope it is of equal or better quality then the old ones. I own and love my EXCALIBUR so I hope the answer is yes. That is exactly what I am hoping for also...Why throw HOPE in the garbage with any prove it is inferior? Dick neppnerguy OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: I bet that is not going to last. I do not believe I see any more scrollsaws in Home Depot. Maybe an on line item. Boy next time I am in Homer I have to take a gander at what they sell. $900 saw in HD. odd. Last time I was in my local store the display didn't change. Thinking online only OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, hotshot said: I also have concerns, but not so much on quality. Seyco bet their business on these guys, and boy did they pay when the channel dried up. I don't know what it would take to get Seyco to sell the EX again. If they do not support the new saws, then that hurts the EX badly. Now Seyco has their own branded saw, they probably don't see any reason of taking a chance on General again. If there isn't a good support model around the Excalibur brand, might at well go with the King/Excelsior. This might be a good opportunity for another "Seyco" to arise and take that business. I got my hands on a Seyco, and it is a good saw, but it is not a better saw in my opinion. Given a choice, I like the Ex. I noticed that Rockler also is carrying the EX as is Sears. Home Depot has always carried more stuff online than they do in their stores, and carried the EX prior, as well as just junk Chinese brands. Patents are only good for 20 years, so I think a lot of the patents are expiring, including the ones for the DW788. How cool would it be to see someone tweak the design of the 788 and put some quality bearings in that design. That could be a game changer. ---------Randy Oh how much money i would have saved had they put better bearing in or used good grease or used grease at all. stoney and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'm wondering if the "K" in the part number denotes that it's actually a King/Excelsior. Seems strange to put a "k" in any number. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 6 hours ago, octoolguy said: I'm wondering if the "K" in the part number denotes that it's actually a King/Excelsior. Seems strange to put a "k" in any number. Rocker and Sears neither include the K. Might just be a Home Depot thing. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I posted this link Dec 16 at The Patriot Woodworker site. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Excalibur-120-Volt-21-in-Tilting-Head-Scroll-Saw-with-Stand-and-Foot-Switch-EX-21K/205414436?cm_mmc=Shopping|THD|G|0|G-BASE-PLA-AllProducts|&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI08SanO2P2AIV1o2zCh2Dtgz-EAQYAiABEgIdG_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CM-Mn6Ptj9gCFVGtTwod5moDig Larry OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, hotshot said: Patents are only good for 20 years, so I think a lot of the patents are expiring, including the ones for the DW788. How cool would it be to see someone tweak the design of the 788 and put some quality bearings in that design. That could be a game changer.---------Randy Yeah Randy this is the kind of thing that could change a mid priced saw for the better and shouldn't increase the cost very much. Makes me wonder how many perspective buyers are turned away from the Dewalt788 by reading about their bearing and on/off switch issues, Plus the fact if you want the upper arm lift it has to be an aftermarket add on. Edited January 25, 2018 by stoney OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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