Scroll Saw Dust Collection Vac?

[kmmcrafts]

I know I've seen this topic over and over.. but I don't recall seeing anything about the dust collector deal that Seyco has on their site that looks to be mounted right on the saw... This is my year to do some more in depth dust collection from my saw.. hope to grab more of the dust directly from the saws.. ( my box fan with filter on the back works pretty good for the money / time invested.. but just not doing it as good as I'd like )  and would like something that would be easily transferred from one saw to the next.. and or.. something permanently plumbed to each saw and either a gate valve or just a matter of switching the hose from one saw to the next.. 

I have the Harbor freight 2hp dust collection system hooked up to the plainer and other big mess making machines.. and could plumb it to the scroll saw corner as well if needed.. but the noise level for a 4-8 hour day of cutting would [probably make me sleep at night till hearing that thing running LOL..

Like the idea behind the Seyco machine.. and how it can be on and off with the saw.. that along with the box fan might take most of the floating dust out of the air.. Also like the idea of the Festool system hooked up like that.. just not sure it's designed to be on / off with a machine.. Thought about a higher end large dust collector.. The one Jet model I was just looking at had 65db - 70.. and the Festool was 62db - 70ish? cannot remember now.. 

I looked into the Jet because at a local store they was running a CNC router on the showroom floor with the jet dust collector and that thing was quiet compared to my HF model LOL.. 

Anyway, looking for what your thoughts are on the Seyco..Festool, and just a upgraded big unit.. 

I do realize this is going to be one of those postings that my festool is better than your box fan type post.. so I headed to the kitchen on this cold snowy day to get my popcorn   and looking forward to reading your ideas and suggestions..

Oh yeah.. the lower the cost is.. the better for me.. but would spend upwards of $500 on a set up that will really work... but also have the ability to make my own.. I have a welder and a old furnace blower.. range hood etc.. lets see that homemade stuff too.. I'm open to whatever is going to do a great job..       

[Scrolling Steve]

Kevin, I have had the Seyco cyclonic action vac system for about  8 months and am very happy with it....the knock out jar catches 95% of the dust so i do not have to change the filter in the vac often...as quite as anything in the shop.....I would buy it again ! 

[Scrappile]

No doubt the Festool is probably top of the line, I don't know but I went just a little cheaper and purchased a Fein.  They happen to have a good sale going on right now.  I am very happy with mine.  The air sucking into my collection pipes/nozzles is louder than the dust extractor. 

https://feintools-online.com/fein-dust-extractors.html

Edited February 4, 2018 by Scrappile

[kmmcrafts]

16 minutes ago, Scrolling Steve said:

Kevin, I have had the Seyco cyclonic action vac system for about  8 months and am very happy with it....the knock out jar catches 95% of the dust so i do not have to change the filter in the vac often...as quite as anything in the shop.....I would buy it again ! 

Thank you!! That is what I want to hear.. I've really been considering this.. because it's small.. looks like it could easily be moved should I want to run it on another saw.. small out of the way so not taking up floor space etc etc.. I move my saws around sometimes.. and hard plumbing from my big system just doesn't make a lot of sense to me etc.. I'm leaning toward this system even though I haven't really heard much on them.. but who knows. maybe someone will post a reason why I should use something different than this.. I have a shop vac that I run to clean up the shop with.. and the big system.. on the big mess making machines ...but they don't seem like something I'd want to hook up and unhook when I want to vac. my cars out or other things I use them for..    

[OCtoolguy]

That's a pretty cute little system that Seyco has. Kinda pricey though. I just recently built a system for my Dewalt. I have the saw at one end of my little shop and a Fein vacuum at the other end. It sits atop a stand and is plumbed into a Dust Deputy that sits below it. I use the Fein for my shop vac to clean up everything from floor to ceiling because it has a 16 foot hose. I built the pvc system for the saw and managed to plumb it in such a way that the Fein hose just plugs into it when I want to use it. As Scrappile said, the suction noise of the pvc pipe is more than the vac noise. It comes on with the saw and turns off when the saw shuts down. It works great. I found the Fein on C/L for a great price and I think that I have about $20 invested in the pvc piping and hook up. Of course, I over spent on the DD and should have just bought the barebones unit for about $50. I now have an extra bucket, wheels and hardware. I did use the hose and 90 degree adaptor that came with it but they could have been purchased separately. Anyway, all told, I have $295 invested but that could have been $50 less. I realize that the $175 for the Fein was my lucky day. It is quiet though so well worth the investment even if you have to go with a new unit. I have shown these pics before but since this is a new thread, I'll attach them again.

Ray

 

[Rockytime]

WOW Ray. That is an impressive system.

[OCtoolguy]

11 minutes ago, Rockytime said:

WOW Ray. That is an impressive system.

Thanks. It works great. I'm going to put something similar together for the Hegner. It should be easy. The hard part was in having the patience to wait for a deal to come along on the Fein. I was not going to plunk down $500 for a vacuum cleaner. No way Jose.

Ray

 

[kmmcrafts]

I like that set up Ray.. not sure but just guessing here.. I'd have upwards of over $ invested in plumbing up 5 saws with this type set up.. unless I could rig it up to be easily removed quicky and adapt to whatever saw I want to sit at for the day..  which is why I had the Seyco Vac in mind.. small out of the way.. Not sure how it is attached to the saw though so maybe it's not as portable as I think it is.. Do like the idea of having the vacuum to clean the whole shop.. but then. I also have a big shop vac.. that has a 10ft hose and a 20ft cord.. I clean from one end to the other of my 24 x 32 shop without having to unplug it.. but I do need to have it roll around the shop to accomplish that.. 

  

[OCtoolguy]

42 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

I like that set up Ray.. not sure but just guessing here.. I'd have upwards of over $ invested in plumbing up 5 saws with this type set up.. unless I could rig it up to be easily removed quicky and adapt to whatever saw I want to sit at for the day..  which is why I had the Seyco Vac in mind.. small out of the way.. Not sure how it is attached to the saw though so maybe it's not as portable as I think it is.. Do like the idea of having the vacuum to clean the whole shop.. but then. I also have a big shop vac.. that has a 10ft hose and a 20ft cord.. I clean from one end to the other of my 24 x 32 shop without having to unplug it.. but I do need to have it roll around the shop to accomplish that.. 

  

Kevin, if you look at the picture with the hose connected to the saw, that is a rubber couple that I bought at H/D. The end of the vac hose just plugs into that. I can have it out and using it for shop clean up in less than 10 seconds. It is very portable in that aspect. I don't have to move the vac as it reaches wherever I need to go including outside the shop. The door to my shop is to the left of the vac in the picture so I can use it outside with my portable table saw or ???. It really works well for my situation. I had some extra shop vac fittings from one of my other vacs that died. I took a heat gun and softened them up a bit so the Fein hose end would fit them too. The Fein accessories are waaaaaay too expensive.

Ray

 

Edited February 4, 2018 by octoolguy

[tonylumps]

I have the Fien and dust deputy set up.Attached to the dust deputy is a splitter with 2 dust gates .One is hooked up to the Lathe with a 3” hose The other is a longer 2” hose I use for the Saws and for General clean up.I think the hose is 16’ long and I could add another length if needed

[Sycamore67]

Before I bought my Festool CT26, I called Festool and asked about turning it on and off.  They told me it is made for that and continuous running.  I h ave my saw plugged into it so it comes on when I turn the saw on.  I also like the fact that it is a HEPA vacuum and not just a HEPA  filter...

While expensive, it is a solid vacuum that I have been using for a number of years.

However, more important than the vacuum is the design of the dust pickups.  You need to pick up above and below the table.  With all dust collection, collecting at the source is a key.  Blowing the dust around is not good at all.  

[amazingkevin]

11 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

I know I've seen this topic over and over.. but I don't recall seeing anything about the dust collector deal that Seyco has on their site that looks to be mounted right on the saw... This is my year to do some more in depth dust collection from my saw.. hope to grab more of the dust directly from the saws.. ( my box fan with filter on the back works pretty good for the money / time invested.. but just not doing it as good as I'd like )  and would like something that would be easily transferred from one saw to the next.. and or.. something permanently plumbed to each saw and either a gate valve or just a matter of switching the hose from one saw to the next.. 

I have the Harbor freight 2hp dust collection system hooked up to the plainer and other big mess making machines.. and could plumb it to the scroll saw corner as well if needed.. but the noise level for a 4-8 hour day of cutting would [probably make me sleep at night till hearing that thing running LOL..

Like the idea behind the Seyco machine.. and how it can be on and off with the saw.. that along with the box fan might take most of the floating dust out of the air.. Also like the idea of the Festool system hooked up like that.. just not sure it's designed to be on / off with a machine.. Thought about a higher end large dust collector.. The one Jet model I was just looking at had 65db - 70.. and the Festool was 62db - 70ish? cannot remember now.. 

I looked into the Jet because at a local store they was running a CNC router on the showroom floor with the jet dust collector and that thing was quiet compared to my HF model LOL.. 

Anyway, looking for what your thoughts are on the Seyco..Festool, and just a upgraded big unit.. 

I do realize this is going to be one of those postings that my festool is better than your box fan type post.. so I headed to the kitchen on this cold snowy day to get my popcorn   and looking forward to reading your ideas and suggestions..

Oh yeah.. the lower the cost is.. the better for me.. but would spend upwards of $500 on a set up that will really work... but also have the ability to make my own.. I have a welder and a old furnace blower.. range hood etc.. lets see that homemade stuff too.. I'm open to whatever is going to do a great job..       

try homemade ,Everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OPi]

I have the Seyco. The problem I have is that the collection jar is a plastic that will collapse if the intake is constricted too much like when I want to vacuum dust from the table top.

Let me know if I need to explain this more.