new2woodwrk Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Do you all sand your raw stock before scrolling and then sand again afterwards before applying a finish or both? Quite a few articles/books recommend sanding the stock before scrolling (80 g through 320) and don't seem to sand when the scrolling is completed but go straight to finishing? I've tried to sand stock before scrolling, but then I have to sand again when the cuts are finished - this makes no sense to me. Thoughts? Thanks in advance OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 both OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I do both also. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I do both..... new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I too do both and you have to. Having a piece that is finished to high standards makes or breaks a piece in my opinion. I sand the wood to 180 grit before scrolling. After done I always sand to 220 grit to rid the fuzzies and give a nice feel to the wood. I use a compressor to blow the dust out of the frets and the grain lines of the wood and I believe this is important too. I do this always outside for it is never too cold or hot to do this. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yep. I do both. Sanding before hand reduces the amount of sanding after which reduces the amount of time sanding sometimes on some quite fragile areas. JTTHECLOCKMAN, new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 I always sand my blanks to finish grit before cutting, usually to 220 grit. Then after cutting, I'll use the same grit to touch up the fuzzies. I don't always start at 80 grit though. If the blank was fresh of the planer, I'll just use 220. It's all determined by how rough the blank was before I started. If after cutting I think it needs more sanding I will, but I never go above 220, unless it's BB which I sand to 320. JTTHECLOCKMAN, new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Both. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Pellow Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Both for me as well. Usually up to 120 grit on both sides before sawing, up 120 grit on the back after sawing, and up to 220 grit on the front after sawing. Edited February 27, 2018 by Frank Pellow OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Both for me as well.. I sand with 80 - 100 to get any plainer marks out so the board is completely flat.. then 150 then 220.. then my final sanding after cutting I use the 220 then a quick 320 OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Do you folks prefer a random orbital sander or a finish sander? I have a single speed random orbital but I don't own a finish sander. I'm toying with buying one though. I'd like to hear the general consensus here. I used to own both but when we sold everything, they went away. R new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I plane my own lumber to dimensions I need. Most times I resaw boards to get me close and then hit the 16/32 drum sander. Now depending how much I need to sand I can start with 100 or 120 grit paper. Then finish with 180 and it is now at the dimension I need. Sometimes if I am using 3/4" stock and need to get to 5/8" I just run it through the planer a couple times and gets me closer and then to the drum sander. Now I lay out my patterns on the board utilizing the most lumber I could so I may have a couple different patterns and just work them into the board. Less waste this way. I then lay blue painters tape on entire board and glue my patterns down. I rough scroll each piece out using either bandsaw or scrollsaw. Now I then take to drill press and using a larger bit I drill most holes. If i need more detail holes I switch to a smaller bit but largest I can use without ruining the pattern lines. I always have a sacrificial board on the drill press table and constantly rotate it or move it around so that when I drill the pattern out I have a backer under it so not to pop splinters out on the back side. To me this is important to for people to look back there and not see huge blowouts. After I cut pieces I strip the blue tape and the pattern comes with it and is easy to do. Sometimes little pieces need to be taken off and I use a exacto knife for that. Now I usually take all pieces out side and I sand both front and back with a porta cable sander and 220 grit paper. After this I use my compressor to blow all the dust out and I had mentioned this before being I use red oak mainly I need to blow the dust out not only the frets but also the grain of the woods. Or else the caked up dust will be ugly when I dip in Danish oil. Here is the finish ( Porta Cable #330 palm sander or block sander as also known)sander that I have been using for many many years and own a couple. Easy to change paper because I buy pre cut paper for this sander as well as my random orbital sanders. https://www.hmres.com/site/images/articles/1d31830b-dc2c-4800-8d2f-8db4.jpeg OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyred Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I sand before and after, also sand while cutting, if there are significant fuzzies on the back. I just keep a block sander with 150 grit at the scroll saw for this. This was recommended in Patrick Spielman's book on beginning scroll sawing, which is what I used to learn scroll sawing (no internet back then, and didn't know any local scrollers). OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, octoolguy said: Do you folks prefer a random orbital sander or a finish sander? I have a single speed random orbital but I don't own a finish sander. I'm toying with buying one though. I'd like to hear the general consensus here. I used to own both but when we sold everything, they went away. R I have a nice Makita finish sander. It never gets used. I have two Porter Cable 333 random orbital sanders. They aren't made anymore but have lasted for in fact one is a spare for when the first one dies. All my projects get sanded by one. I have the sander permanently hooked up to a Shop Vac with a Dust Deputy in between. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 hours ago, new2woodwrk said: Do you all sand your raw stock before scrolling and then sand again afterwards before applying a finish or both? Quite a few articles/books recommend sanding the stock before scrolling (80 g through 320) and don't seem to sand when the scrolling is completed but go straight to finishing? I've tried to sand stock before scrolling, but then I have to sand again when the cuts are finished - this makes no sense to me. Thoughts? Thanks in advance I sand before the fragile cutting so avoid vibrating small pieces out .I will take a whole lot less sanding this way and chances of finding of vibrated pieces on the ground are Nile111111111111111 new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Both. Marg new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Several standings down to 180 or 220 grit pre cutting. Light touch up sanding with 220 or 320 after. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrollerpete Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I do it both before and after. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 hours ago, jollyred said: I sand before and after, also sand while cutting, if there are significant fuzzies on the back. Same way here. Then, after finishing, I go over the front of the piece with a piece of brown paper bag. Larry new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Johnson Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I hand scrap my stock and or hand plane to the finish I like prior to cutting. Very little sanding required when done cutting. I use sandpaper mainly for sharpening my tools. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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