Fish Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Now that I’m searching for my dream saw, I’ve found one by the company that made the Excalibur. Anyone know or have any info on these saws? I want a 21” but their hard to find. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Home Depot now sells the New EXcalibur.I don’t know if they are in the stores.But they are on there web site OCtoolguy and Fish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 I found they are selling these, but the one here in Jacksonville and Collinsville Illinois don't have them in store or online. They are supposed to notify me if they get them. the other one I found is the Excelsior out of Canada. Is there any difference in the two at all? Besides the price ? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 King only have a 16" or 30" model. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Fish said: I found they are selling these, but the one here in Jacksonville and Collinsville Illinois don't have them in store or online. They are supposed to notify me if they get them. the other one I found is the Excelsior out of Canada. Is there any difference in the two at all? Besides the price ? Rockler also sell the Ex-21 http://www.rockler.com/excalibur-21-scroll-saw-with-foot-switch-and-open-stand OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) Also was just looking.. woodcraft is running a special.. buy a King saw.. get a free stand.. Promo good through March 29 2018 https://www.woodcraft.com/categories/scroll-saws?brand[]=King+Industrial Edited March 2, 2018 by kmmcrafts OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Thanks I'll look in to it OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 I think they are all the same saw.If I needed a saw .would not hesitate to buy either one. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynail Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 13 hours ago, tonylumps said: I think they are all the same saw.If I needed a saw .would not hesitate to buy either one. Plus one on being the same saw. That being said I would just go for the best price. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 I love my new Hegner. They are more expensive but I was wanting a work horse. Rob and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 11 hours ago, Dave Monk said: I love my new Hegner. They are more expensive but I was wanting a work horse. Good to hear that Dave. I'm still getting used to mine. After cutting with the Dewalt, it's a totally different feeling and experience. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think I have settled on the 21" Excalibur. I'm just waiting to hear back from a few places. I have found out that my wife has been secretly saving money for me to do this for awhile now. She already has half of what we need. Dave Monk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Having owned many saws from old Deltas to DeWalts to the Hawks and now the EX-21 I picked up late last year.. If I could only have the one saw.. I think I'd choose the EX-21.. I like each saw I have for different reasons and cutting styles.. but the one and only comfortably using saw for every style of cutting i do.. for me.. the Ex21 fits that bill best overall.. Yes there are a couple of things I don't like about the EX too.. But like I said overall it's the simplest and most user friendly saw of all those I have.. for the type of cutting i use the saws for.. If I was stuck doing portrait work all the time in thin stock.. then the Hawk is a nice fit.. If I was cutting thick material and wanting to cut fast.. The Dewalt is my choice. but the Ex will do both of those with ease.. I think you'll be very happy with the EX-21 poupster2 and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustynail Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Any one using one of the new Seyco saws? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, rustynail said: Any one using one of the new Seyco saws? Scappile. (Paul) bought one about last May. He has owned the EX 30 inch which now belongs to me. ... thank you Paul for selling it to me.... and he can tell you first hand, everything he likes and doesn't like about it..PM him Dick heppnerguy OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/3/2018 at 4:36 PM, Fish said: I think I have settled on the 21" Excalibur. I'm just waiting to hear back from a few places. I have found out that my wife has been secretly saving money for me to do this for awhile now. She already has half of what we need. Good luck with this.... if indeed you can find one to purchase, you are one lucky guy. However, I believe that you will probably discover you will be informed that they no longer have one or can even get one for you.. I would call them now and see what they say before you get your hopes too far up Dick heppnerguy OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Your only options that I know of is the Excalibur in the 21 inch saw. The stores that sell the excelsior cannot ship those to the USA ( I tried that before they brought back the Excalibur) . As for the HD not having them at your store online yet. They ship these either to store or to your home. So if you really want one you need to change your store to one that sells them I’m thinking then have it shipped to your home. Or make the purchase through Rockler who also sells them. Other option is going bigger or smaller to the King brand from woodcraft. Which might be the better deal right now since they are giving a free stand with the purchase of the saw. Maybe they are running this deal for the Excalibur too? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I finally got it. I had found it online at the Woodworkers Shop in Pekin Illinois. It was their display/demo for awhile and they had it for sale. I thank all of you for your input it all helps. I love it. This is definitely worth the money. Now that these are discontinued, in case I need parts anyone know where to find them? Probably from King? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Fish said: I finally got it. I had found it online at the Woodworkers Shop in Pekin Illinois. It was their display/demo for awhile and they had it for sale. I thank all of you for your input it all helps. I love it. This is definitely worth the money. Now that these are discontinued, in case I need parts anyone know where to find them? Probably from King? Actually Seyco still sells parts.. most of the main parts are the same as the Seyco saw.. too.. and also King would be a source of parts.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fish said: I finally got it. I had found it online at the Woodworkers Shop in Pekin Illinois. It was their display/demo for awhile and they had it for sale. I thank all of you for your input it all helps. I love it. This is definitely worth the money. Now that these are discontinued, in case I need parts anyone know where to find them? Probably from King? I don't think discontinued is the word. Part of General is now Chinese owned. China and Taiwan are not really best of buddies, so the Taiwan Manufacture just kept on making the saws for everyone but General. General had to bring up a whole new production line in China, which they did, and those saws are now on sale at Home Depot and Rockler. So, it looks like two completely different manufacturers are making the saw. At this point, since King/Excelsior/Carbatec/Axminster/Pegas are still coming from the same factory, and the Excalibur line in new, I think I would trust the Taiwan saws over the Excalibur branded saws. So, all that to say, you can buy a brand new Excalibur by General today, but I'm not sure you would want to. And if you want to by parts from the manufacturer that originally made your saw, that would be the Taiwanese flavor, or King in the U.S. Edited March 11, 2018 by hotshot kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, hotshot said: I don't think discontinued is the word. Part of General is now Chinese owned. China and Taiwan are not really best of buddies, so the Taiwan Manufacture just kept on making the saws for everyone but General. General had to bring up a whole new production line in China, which they did, and those saws are now on sale at Home Depot and Rockler. So, it looks like two completely different manufacturers are making the saw. At this point, since King/Excelsior/Carbatec/Axminster/Pegas are still coming from the same factory, and the Excalibur line in new, I think I would trust the Taiwan saws over the Excalibur branded saws. So, all that to say, you can buy a brand new Excalibur by General today, but I'm not sure you would want to. And if you want to by parts from the manufacturer that originally made your saw, that would be the Taiwanese flavor, or King in the U.S. You suppose this will cause some headaches down the road for those that are buying used saws.. Suppose they'll be marked with where they are made.. This will certainly have me on the lookout if I was purchasing a used EX.. That said.. I doubt I will be buying any saws for quite some time.. since I have plenty around here.. some still quite unused.. I want to try a Henger someday.. but doubt I'm going to be buying anything for a few years at a minimum.. LOL OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, hotshot said: I don't think discontinued is the word. Part of General is now Chinese owned. China and Taiwan are not really best of buddies, so the Taiwan Manufacture just kept on making the saws for everyone but General. General had to bring up a whole new production line in China, which they did, and those saws are now on sale at Home Depot and Rockler. So, it looks like two completely different manufacturers are making the saw. At this point, since King/Excelsior/Carbatec/Axminster/Pegas are still coming from the same factory, and the Excalibur line in new, I think I would trust the Taiwan saws over the Excalibur branded saws. So, all that to say, you can buy a brand new Excalibur by General today, but I'm not sure you would want to. And if you want to by parts from the manufacturer that originally made your saw, that would be the Taiwanese flavor, or King in the U.S. So, who is selling the ones made in Taiwan? That would be the one that I would want. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, octoolguy said: So, who is selling the ones made in Taiwan? That would be the one that I would want. Ray The Excalibur named ones are now made in the "new" China location.. Believe they only offer the 21"? Anyway all the other brands are still made from the same company as they was always made in.. At least that is my understanding of it.. Probably why King never offered the 21" to USA.. as there was some deal from what I had heard between general and King to not bring out a 21" saw from what I gathered in all the discussions I've read about it.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Good to know Seyco still has parts, thanks. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 hours ago, octoolguy said: So, who is selling the ones made in Taiwan? That would be the one that I would want. Ray Just avoid the new Excaliburs if you want to stay with the original factory. That said, I don't know that there is anything wrong with the new Excaliburs. Some brave sole needs to test the waters . . . . King/Excelsior, Seyco, Jet, Carbatec, Axminster, and Pegas are all still made in Taiwan and are the safe bet right now. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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