3Dface Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 ok... being raised in the U.S. i have always used the "Imperial" standard of measurement until i started scrolling. still when using store bought frames i stick to that standard but have found 180mm is easier to read than 7 3/32 because i have have trouble with getting confused with the different size lines. (although Dyslexia may have a little to do with it ) i assume i am one of few in the U.S. but would love to know. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I still use the old Imperial measurements. I'm too old to change. As far as frames, I make my own to fit the project rather than trying to size the project to a frame. bobscroll, OCtoolguy and WayneMahler 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dface Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, dgman said: I still use the old Imperial measurements. I'm too old to change. As far as frames, I make my own to fit the project rather than trying to size the project to a frame. Thanks DG i am still learning how to make frames. most portrait orders i have had have been for 8x10s but i have loved the challenge of making frames . i may even understand how to be consistent one day. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 All my frames are made in my shop. I still use the Imperial measurements to do the rough cuts etc. I'm sort of familiar with the metric system and it seems things are all headed that way. Cars started switching over to the metrics in the 1970's and are completely metric now. Hated when that happen being a mechanic I had to purchase tons of metric wrenches sockets and stuff. OCtoolguy, 3Dface and bobscroll 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I use both But at 74 yo I am leaning towards Metric There are only 10 MM to a CM.No1/2-1/4-1/8-1/16.1/32.or1/64 .How much easier could you get. 3Dface and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Metric makes more sense but I don't see the US changing. I learned the metric system in 7th grade because there was a push to adopt that system. Now, 40 some years later... no change. OCtoolguy and 3Dface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 I think I can go back 50 years, to grade school, when they told us we had to learn it because the US was gonna change. They also told us we would be driving flying cars in the year 2000. I'm still waiting for my flying car. OCtoolguy and 3Dface 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I read once that the U.S. is the only country in the world that isn't using the metric system. The U.S. is also the only country in the world that put a man on the moon. OCtoolguy and 3Dface 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I HATE metric! OCtoolguy and 3Dface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Did I mention I HATE metric? Edited March 15, 2018 by Rockytime punctuation meflick and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 You got me wondering what other countries still use Imperial.... https://www.zmescience.com/other/map-of-countries-officially-not-using-the-metric-system/ OCtoolguy and 3Dface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredfret Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I am a calibration tech and have to convert from one to the other all the time. Most of the people I work with have great difficulty dividing or multiplying by 10. The metric system is a decimal system. If we all used only one or the other sure would make my life easier. Fredfret OCtoolguy and 3Dface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dface Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Rockytime said: Did I mention I HATE metric? Don't hold back man..... just tell us how you really feel!!! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 All my lathes and mills are imperial. All my calipers and mikes are imperial. On engine plans that are metric and I always have to change to imperial. I HATE metric! OCtoolguy and 3Dface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Pellow Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I fully understand both Imperial and Metric but almost always use metric because it is vastly more efficient to do so. You folks using Imperial are only slowing yourselves down and providing more chance of making errors. And, don't say you are too old -I am 75. OCtoolguy and 3Dface 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'll agree with Frank, metric is intuitively easy. That said I am comfortable in both. But then again I was a military brat and retired myself too, so serving all over the world probably made me more familiar. What I find is funny, is the 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" ratchets, the square lug that extends from a metric ratchet is that SAE size. What I hate, like the bolts on my Ex-21 table leg to machine mounting, the bolt and nut head was metric but the threads were SAE. Now why in world would anyone special order a hybrid bolt as a manufacturer is beyond me. 3Dface and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonylumps Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I am 74 now when I was in my 60,s i got into Bicycles.Riding and repairing. I still have a bicycle shop in my basement and the 5 drawer tool cabinet is full with Metric tools.So i did not have a choice When dealing with bikes that Have japanese and Italian components you do not have a choice. 3Dface and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Frank Pellow said: I fully understand both Imperial and Metric but almost always use metric because it is vastly more efficient to do so. You folks using Imperial are only slowing yourselves down and providing more chance of making errors. And, don't say you are too old -I am 75. Starting the learning curve from scratch, I can definitely see the advantage of the metric system. I still have no interest in personally using it. It doesn't slow me down at all, because I'm strictly a hobbiest and speed is at the bottom of the list of my priorities. I'm pretty sure I could make just as many errors with the metric system as the Imperial. It's a gift. OCtoolguy and 3Dface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, JimErn said: I'll agree with Frank, metric is intuitively easy. That said I am comfortable in both. But then again I was a military brat and retired myself too, so serving all over the world probably made me more familiar. What I find is funny, is the 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" ratchets, the square lug that extends from a metric ratchet is that SAE size. What I hate, like the bolts on my Ex-21 table leg to machine mounting, the bolt and nut head was metric but the threads were SAE. Now why in world would anyone special order a hybrid bolt as a manufacturer is beyond me. I used to sell tools for a living. The system that always baffled me was the British Whitworth. That system made no sense to me at all. If I recall, the measurement was the diameter of the fastener determined the head size of the bolt or socket or wrench. In other words, if the bolt was a half inch in diameter, the size of the socket was about 3/4" but it was called a 1/2". Very confusing. Luckily, I only had to sell those to the old motorcycle shops. Nothing much else used them. At least in my territory. I think I stocked one set of sockets and one set of wrenches on my truck just for that occasional customer. I'm glad they disappeared. Ray 3Dface 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Did I already mention that I HATE metric? 3Dface and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLarry Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I have an adjustable wrench that has an inch scale on one side and a metric scale on the other side?? I waste no time to figure out if the bolt head or nut is imperial or metric. I just put it on and adjust it to fit. Larry OCtoolguy and 3Dface 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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