new2woodwrk Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Is there anything special anyone knows I need to do when setting up the new Delta? I will of course follow the directions in the manual, but I've seen some posts and reviews where bearings need to be greased or bolts needed to be tightened. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 You will probably get a bunch of responses. Having done a lot of mechanical work in my life (& reading on this site that a lot of saws are shipped out with minimal grease), I started up my brand new 40-694 to make sure that it would run OK and took it apart and greased all the bearings. I shut down in the winter, so I grease it again every fall before quitting "the season". Lots of people will tell you not to void the warranty that way, but I trust my own experience more than any warranty. Everyone will have their own thoughts on the subject. If and when you ever do tear it apart, there is a connecting rod connected to the motor. On the other end of that rod is a bolt that takes the entire load of the saw. Take that bolt to a hardware store and get one like it but stainless steel. I had that bolt break in the middle. Stainless is a harder metal. Each year I also replace the nuts with the nylon inserts that are located inside of the case. OCtoolguy, new2woodwrk and SCROLLSAW703 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I strongly advise that you watch the four part series on youtube that goes into great detail on how to take apart and put together a Dewalt saw. It's not hard to find. I have captured all four segments and used Microsoft Movie Maker to make it into one movie. I watch it every once in a while just to remind myself of stuff.Ray new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, octoolguy said: I strongly advise that you watch the four part series on youtube that goes into great detail on how to take apart and put together a Dewalt saw. It's not hard to find. I have captured all four segments and used Microsoft Movie Maker to make it into one movie. I watch it every once in a while just to remind myself of stuff.Ray Did a search "how to take apart and put together a Dewalt scroll saw" but didn't find the vids - found everything but the scroll saw oh well, I'll try again another time - thanks Edited March 15, 2018 by new2woodwrk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Taking it apart to add grease is easy to do... however I wouldn't personally do that for a couple of reasons.. First being.. you void any kind of warranty that it might come with.. second is.. in order to grease it the " right " way you need to take it farther apart than just exposing it enough to "add" grease.. Reason I wouldn't "add" grease is because there are many grease's that are "not compatible" with one another and could actually do more harm than good.. To properly do a good grease job on it.. you'd need to clean out all of the old grease.. then re-grease the bearings with a high quality grease.. I'd run the saw for a year or so.. then do the maintenance.. or wait until it starts making noises and buy a better quality bearing to put in it.. The bearing quality in these saws isn't that great.. then top it off with not much grease.. and it leaves for a failing saw in a short amount of time.. quality bearings added with quality grease will actually make these saws run a long time and run much better.. My Dewalt needed a rebuild after just a couple of years for me.. I bought the best bearings I could and high end synthetic grease.. that was 6 years ago.. and the one that is making noise now if the one that I didn't do because I needed to put the saw back together for a order.. SCROLLSAW703, new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, new2woodwrk said: Did a search "how to take apart and put together a Dewalt scroll saw" but didn't find the vids - found everything but the scroll saw oh well, I'll try again another time - thanks There are several topics here in the forum with links to the videos.. Might find it by searching this forum for Dewalt bearings.. To watch all 3-4 parts of videos is about an hour+ of time so have coffee and snacks LOL Edit to add link: Here I'll make it easy for you... videos are in this topic.. Not sure why it put two links in here.. but click on the JoeM part on the top.. that should take you to the post where the vids are Edited March 15, 2018 by kmmcrafts OCtoolguy, new2woodwrk and SCROLLSAW703 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Listen to Kevin. Unless you are Delta certified do not disassemble it or modify in any way until the warrant has expired. The only exception would be to remove the hold down but keep it in a safe spot should you need to return the saw. new2woodwrk, SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: Here I'll make it easy for you... videos are in this topic.. Not sure why it put two links in here.. but click on the JoeM part on the top.. that should take you to the post where the vids are Very nice of you thanks! Greatly appreciated OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokentone Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I am new at scrolling. After borrowing a friends older craftsman I purchased a Dewalt type 1 from Craig's list. It appeared as like new or perfect restoration except for saw cuts around the hole in table and a little prior corrosion on table. It sounded as quiet as a sewing machine. Having had a long career with trucks and metal working machinery I felt the need to disassemble and inspect. To my delight the inside looked as clean as the outside and most of the bearings looked like they had adequate lube, I added a touch of the synthetic as recommended. From seeing the insides of the machine it appears to have had little use, I am thinking the cuts on the table were caused by a too loose spiral blade as they were in a circular pattern around the hole. I made a Prayer changes things plaque, my wife asked if she could give to a friend for 96th birthday. Her friends all want to buy them. I am 78 yrs old and do not want to become entrapped, I want to do what I want when I want. Thanks for listening Bob SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdraftn Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Lower blade guard.....stay or go? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, justdraftn said: Lower blade guard.....stay or go? I removed mine on the Wen and will do so on the Delta as well OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, NC Scroller said: Listen to Kevin. Unless you are Delta certified do not disassemble it or modify in any way until the warrant has expired. The only exception would be to remove the hold down but keep it in a safe spot should you need to return the saw. Yah, I'm not the type to take things apart to either see how they work OR fix them LOL - usually when I take things apart to repair them, I either can't get them back together the same way or have parts left over. I'll use a certified repair specialist before I attempt anything on my own - UNLESS, the unit can't be broke any more than it already is, or there are no repair specialists for the unit like my old craftsman drill and circ saw :( OCtoolguy and SCROLLSAW703 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 7 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: Taking it apart to add grease is easy to do... however I wouldn't personally do that for a couple of reasons.. First being.. you void any kind of warranty that it might come with.. second is.. in order to grease it the " right " way you need to take it farther apart than just exposing it enough to "add" grease.. Reason I wouldn't "add" grease is because there are many grease's that are "not compatible" with one another and could actually do more harm than good.. To properly do a good grease job on it.. you'd need to clean out all of the old grease.. then re-grease the bearings with a high quality grease.. I'd run the saw for a year or so.. then do the maintenance.. or wait until it starts making noises and buy a better quality bearing to put in it.. The bearing quality in these saws isn't that great.. then top it off with not much grease.. and it leaves for a failing saw in a short amount of time.. quality bearings added with quality grease will actually make these saws run a long time and run much better.. My Dewalt needed a rebuild after just a couple of years for me.. I bought the best bearings I could and high end synthetic grease.. that was 6 years ago.. and the one that is making noise now if the one that I didn't do because I needed to put the saw back together for a order.. Of course your are correct Kevin. I only mentioned that he should watch the videos because it would give him a very good working knowledge of what makes his saw "tick". And, if someone does decide to re-grease his saw's bearings you are right on about cleaning out the old grease prior to installing new grease. I took Bob Brokaw's advice and bought a can of Valvoline synthetic grease and I use a pipe cleaner to clean and grease all the bearings and sleeves. It was because of the video that I found my vibration. When I took my saw apart, I found a very loose screw on the main drive link. That pretty much solved my problem but I still went ahead and inspected the rest of it. Ray new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 7 hours ago, new2woodwrk said: Did a search "how to take apart and put together a Dewalt scroll saw" but didn't find the vids - found everything but the scroll saw oh well, I'll try again another time - thanks Here is the link to the first in the series of four. Very well done. Bob Brokaw is very knowledgeable and a bit on the verbose side but you will learn a ton from him. new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 5 hours ago, octoolguy said: Here is the link to the first in the series of four. Very well done. Bob Brokaw is very knowledgeable and a bit on the verbose side but you will learn a ton from him. IF anyone opens up a Dewalt or Delta, the bolt just to the right of his finger is what I recommended above be replaced with stainless steel. jerry OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 On 3/14/2018 at 8:03 PM, new2woodwrk said: Is there anything special anyone knows I need to do when setting up the new Delta? I will of course follow the directions in the manual, but I've seen some posts and reviews where bearings need to be greased or bolts needed to be tightened. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance I think you need to drop off the saw to my home for a while, I'll work with it for a few months then give you my opinion!!!! and maybe...return it back!!! Good luck and congrats!! OCtoolguy, SCROLLSAW703 and new2woodwrk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, jerry1939 said: IF anyone opens up a Dewalt or Delta, the bolt just to the right of his finger is what I recommended above be replaced with stainless steel. jerry Where did you find a stainless bolt with the correct thread? I haven't tried to find one so I'm asking. Might be a good idea to replace all the similar bolts at the same time. Ray new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry1939 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 23 minutes ago, octoolguy said: Where did you find a stainless bolt with the correct thread? I haven't tried to find one so I'm asking. Might be a good idea to replace all the similar bolts at the same time. Ray It doesn't need to be the same thread. That is a bolt & nut. Just buy both. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, jerry1939 said: It doesn't need to be the same thread. That is a bolt & nut. Just buy both. Thanks Jerry. I have no idea why I didn't think of that. I guess I really am close to the end. Ray new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 19 hours ago, justdraftn said: Lower blade guard.....stay or go? Go. It only hinders blade changing. justdraftn, new2woodwrk, OCtoolguy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 10 hours ago, lew said: I think you need to drop off the saw to my home for a while, I'll work with it for a few months then give you my opinion!!!! and maybe...return it back!!! Good luck and congrats!! lew WAKE UP - I think you're posting in your sleep Thanks SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, new2woodwrk said: lew WAKE UP - I think you're posting in your sleep Thanks I can dream a little.....I'll give it a few months, then make the switch like you did! SCROLLSAW703, new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowning Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Manual.....Manual.....MANUAL, we don't need no stinkin' manuals. OCtoolguy, SCROLLSAW703 and new2woodwrk 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just buy a Hawk, SCROLLSAW703, new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 hours ago, jbrowning said: Manual.....Manual.....MANUAL, we don't need no stinkin' manuals. You only need the manual to find out where the spare parts go. OCtoolguy, SCROLLSAW703 and new2woodwrk 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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