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...so, the reason I got a SS was to do detail work on band saw boxes.
Last winter I found a guitar box hidden inside a gnarled old piece of 
200yr old oak.....that just about ended up in the wood stove.


It has been sitting on my bench all summer...as I pondered what to do
for the drawer handles.  Since it is a guitar, it has to have F-holes.
It took a few tries. I could never do this kind of detail on the band saw.

 

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I even  got to use the little sand paper strips that I got.
They worked great for this.  The quality of the paper is not impressive....
so when it got worn down, I just glued a regular piece on to it and it
was better than new.

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....what's up?  Still working on how to "inlay" a scroll into/onto a band saw box.

Finally finished up the kitty and guitar boxes.  They have left the shop and headed out

into the world.  

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Created a yen/yang box for my SIL.

200yr old oak and walnut.

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Got some maple fire wood this summer.  Tree was cut down because it was dying.

I pulled some pieces out to see what I could find.

Found these: spalted maple

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Working on new(to me) technique to get the most out of beautiful wood.

Laguna Resaw King blade on my band saw can do just amazing things.

Cutting the logs on a diagonal to get more surface area and 

a different perspective of the grain.

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Plan is use these for fronts and backs of boxes w/filler wood in between.

 

 

 

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Looks like I missed most of these posts the first time around.  My loss, I like all the work you did.  

Love your newest bandsaw boxes.  Like you, I have started thinking about how you could incorporate some scroll work into a bandsaw box other than the handles. 😉 I think it could be done easily enough when the "front" of a drawer or the box has an area that is "flat".  Will have to give it some thought.  Look forward to seeing what you come up with.  Glad you came back and gave us an updated look at your latest boxes.

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1 hour ago, meflick said:

Looks like I missed most of these posts the first time around.  My loss, I like all the work you did.  

Love your newest bandsaw boxes.  Like you, I have started thinking about how you could incorporate some scroll work into a bandsaw box other than the handles. 😉 I think it could be done easily enough when the "front" of a drawer or the box has an area that is "flat".  Will have to give it some thought.  Look forward to seeing what you come up with.  Glad you came back and gave us an updated look at your latest boxes.

Thank you!

That box above is very close to what I want.  

It was my first try and I actually finished and gave it to

a friend at work.

Go here:  http://www.scrollsawvillage.com/forums/topic/28550-you-dont-need-no-stinkn/

Scrolling the front of a drawer is pretty straight forward.

This was my first SS box,  just fooling around.

I want the scroll to be the focal point of the entire box.

I will post some pics of some other things I have tried.

I am to easily distracted to a new design or technique and away I go....

you know.…..look  SQUIRREL......

If you're interested I will keep posting my attempts....

and maybe we can come up w/something that works.

Also, I have noticed that working on the SS has really improved

my eye/hand coordination when working on the band saw.

A real bonus.

 

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Couple of things.....
Started leaving the leaf attached to a longer runner to cut it out.
Much easier.  I scroll the veins on the leaf.  Then cut the shape on the band saw.
With the leaf still attached to the runner, I can just rotate it and do the compound
cut for the profile.  Complete most of the sanding while it is still attached.  Thoughts/comments

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Next, need your thoughts/opinions on my latest attempt to dress up my

band saw boxes.  Being that this is a group of very discerning craftspeople,

what do you think?  Don't hold back.....I want to know.  Thanks!

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On 2/5/2019 at 4:02 PM, meflick said:

  Like you, I have started thinking about how you could incorporate some scroll work into a bandsaw box other than the handles.  Will have to give it some thought.  Look forward to seeing what you come up with.  

Here is my latest attempt.  It is much easier and straight forward than trying to do the 

scroll work on a curved piece. The only part I don't like are the glue lines.  I always try to

hide them.  No way to do that with this.  What do you think?

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I get it that most folks here don't care about this, but I appreciate any comments/suggestions.

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Sorry I missed your post on the 16th - we were out of town that week I know but I did try to check it but somehow missed that one.  I like the curved leaves on the outside.  Something you don't see often. Would be a little afraid of them being easily broken off though.

I'm not clear on your most recent attempt exactly what you were doing.  I think that you put the leave on a thinner piece, then cut it out and then glued it to the top piece before cutting the box.  Is that correct?  Did you then cut into the box from the top to cut out the drawers?  If so, I would probably attempt to cut into the drawers in a different location - either further down on a side or from the bottom so that the area is more hidden.  Also, with your grain so noticeable in the piece, I would try to make sure that my grain lines match up as best as possible.  Yours look a little "shifted" on the sides where the cut lines are.  (I know that's hard to do, trust me - i am no expert on that either.)  Finally, another "trick" that I have seen successfully done when trying to hide a cut line or something is to take some of your sawdust and glue and mix it together and then rub it into and over your cut lines.  Let it dry well and then sand back down and that helps to hide the cut/glue line.  Looks like you are on the right track.  I haven't tried doing any of that yet. Will have to remember to try next time I am getting some box blanks ready to cut.  I have some in the process now but too far down the road to add the scrolling to the top.  Another place to add the scrolling would be the drawer fronts perhaps.  Good luck.  Look forward to seeing more.

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I like the curved leaves on the outside.  Something you don't see often. Would be a little afraid of them being easily broken off though. 
I thought the same thing about them being broken off.  That is being pondered.
I do think this technique is going to work, somehow.

I'm not clear on your most recent attempt exactly what you were doing.  I think that you put the leave on a thinner piece, then cut it out and then glued it to the top piece before cutting the box.  Is that correct?  
Started w/block of redwood 4x4.  Cut the "top" off.  Put the scroll pattern on it.  Scroll it.
Glue it back on the block.  Cut out the shape of the box.  That's how I got there.  Then it is just
standard band saw box build.  Cut off the back.  Cut out the drawers.....etc.
The glue lines on top are just the lines from gluing the "top" w/the scroll back on.

 

Did you then cut into the box from the top to cut out the drawers?  If so, I would probably attempt to cut into the drawers in a different location - either further down on a side or from the bottom so that the area is more hidden.  Also, with your grain so noticeable in the piece, I would try to make sure that my grain lines match up as best as possible.
There is no way to know if the grain lines are lined up exactly when you glue the top back on.

Yours look a little "shifted" on the sides where the cut lines are.  (I know that's hard to do, trust me - i am no expert on that either.)  Finally, another "trick" that I have seen successfully done when trying to hide a cut line or something is to take some of your sawdust and glue and mix it together and then rub it into and over your cut lines.  Let it dry well and then sand back down and that helps to hide the cut/glue line.
I have fixed lines/loose knots and such w/sanding dust added to epoxy.  It is ok.  

Will have to remember to try next time I am getting some box blanks ready to cut.  I have some in the process now but too far down the road to add the scrolling to the top.  
I'm working on a new(to me) roll top box.  I got plain old framing 2x8.  Ran them through the planer.
Glued them up.  I have cut one of them.  Amazing what comes out.  Actually will make a unique box.

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I recently ran across a "roll top box" when googling around/pinteresting/looking for bandsaw boxes for ideas.  I thought it looked like a neat idea.  Decided I wasn't ready to go there and give it a try just yet.  Too much of a newbie with the bandsaw and boxes. Look forward to seeing yours. The grain on that looks awesome.  Should really pop when finished. Thanks for continuing to share your progress.  Make sure to tag me if I miss an update.

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2 minutes ago, meflick said:

I recently ran across a "roll top box" when googling around/pinteresting/looking for bandsaw boxes for ideas.  I thought it looked like a neat idea.  Decided I wasn't ready to go there and give it a try just yet.  Too much of a newbie with the bandsaw and boxes. Look forward to seeing yours. The grain on that looks awesome.  Should really pop when finished. Thanks for continuing to share your progress.  Make sure to tag me if I miss an update.

With band saw boxes....it's all in knowing the order of the cuts.

 

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On 3/1/2019 at 8:01 AM, meflick said:

Too much of a newbie with the bandsaw and boxes. Look forward to seeing yours. The grain on that looks awesome.  Should really pop when finished. Thanks for continuing to share your progress.  

Cold, snow day. Good day to work in my shop.
Created my first roll top bandsaw box.
Pretty straight forward.
I created a list w/the order to cuts....so I can remember.

If you're interested, I have pics of the build.

I take pics of what I do....whatever it is.

I find that when I'm sitting on the couch at night and

looking at the pics, I get ideas for better ways to do something

or a new idea for something to do.

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As I was just looking at these pics,  when the front of these boxes is cut off,

it would be the perfect time to do a scroll on it.  

To be continued...…...

 

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Thanks for sharing the pics of your progress. I like seeing them. It’s looking great. As far as scrolling on the box, thst was my thought - scrolling on the box fronts thst would be flat once cut off but before reapplying. Look forward to seeing this box completed, did you find the pattern/instructions for this online or developing it yourself?

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1 hour ago, meflick said:

Thanks for sharing the pics of your progress. I like seeing them. It’s looking great. As far as scrolling on the box, thst was my thought - scrolling on the box fronts thst would be flat once cut off but before reapplying. Look forward to seeing this box completed, did you find the pattern/instructions for this online or developing it yourself?

Thanks!

I found a video on line.  I just watched the video and

figured out the steps.  Once you have the mechanics

of bandsaw boxes down, it's pretty easy to see the steps.

Just google roll top bandsaw box or  The Moon bandsaw box.

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On 3/3/2019 at 6:30 AM, meflick said:

Thanks for sharing the pics of your progress. I like seeing them.

That roll top was sort of a faux roll top.  Curious, yes.  Not  the real thing.

...so, what to do.  Create the real thing.

Tambour roll top band saw box. 

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....with a hidden compartment...just because I can.

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Latest project.....the ever popular cracked box.....w/custom veneer.

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Greetings! scrollers.  Been busy since my last visit.  I stop in and admire the
amazing stuff that goes on here.  I retired full time in May.  Been busy trying to
learn how to do that full time.  It has been interesting.  Have been having way too
much fun with Maximus, by Laguna band saw.  Expanded on the roll top cell phone 
stations.  Created one out of some 100yr old oak beams.  Goal was to save the 
adz marks left when the tree was hewed into the beam.

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 Created a hearts box for my NIL. 

Embedded some agates that they gather from the beaches on Cook Inlet in Alaska.  

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Taught myself some inlay techniques to do a cutting board.  Took some of my 

practice boards and created a hearts box.  Just couldn't toss them in the wood stove.

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I created a cutting  board but decided not to use it for that......long story.   Had an idea
to build another box for another NIL.  Long story where this idea came from...but it is
a Golden Spiral.  She's a math wiz.  I aligned the squares of the board w/the X/Y axis
of the boxes the build the spiral.

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 ...and in doing that had to figure how to make that fine
cut that begins the spiral.  On my prototype box I realized that the band saw was not
going to cut it for that.  When I built the box, I taped the front/back veneers to the blank
and cut it out.  I left the really tight part of the spiral intact.  Once I had all the drawers
cut out, I removed the veneer off the blank.  I then cut the really fine part of the spiral
on my scroll saw.  Much better results.

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 Reminded me how much fun the scroll saw is.
Then, just happened to stumble across a guy that mentioned cutting small drawer pulls
doing compound cuts on his scroll saw.  Now, I'm really interested.  So started playing 
w/that.  Found a candle holder in a scroll saw book and decided this would be a good
way to get my head into this compound cutting.

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 I got one cut out and it was not easy.

 

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....finally, my question for you...… I need a holder to do the cutting.  Anybody build 
one of these or ideas for how to make one?  

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