new2woodwrk Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) I've been looking at a project to cut and there is quite a bit of veining. I've only done veining where you can get to it from an existing cut. This project has veining where it appears you would have to drill a hole, the veining is so small . An example would be veining feathers on a bird or in the middle of a leaf may be more accurate I have micro bits but not sure if that is the best way to do this. Also not sure what blade to use - I have several, but have only been using 3ur and 5ur Pegas for the most part Thanks in advance Edited April 1, 2018 by new2woodwrk Lucky2, OCtoolguy and tomsteve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I use a #70 bit and a Flying Dutchman 3/0 New Spiral blade. It makes a good kurf for veining but will feed through that small of a hole. Lucky2, new2woodwrk, OCtoolguy and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I use a small drill bit and put the hole in the middle somewhere. Then as I cut I feather out to narrow on the ends. This hides the entry hole pretty well. JimErn, SCROLLSAW703, new2woodwrk and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I do as Katie except I will usually drill the hole on the end or beginning of the vein. If there ar intersecting veins, I'll drill the hole at the intersection. This hides the hole better. Lucky2, new2woodwrk, JTTHECLOCKMAN and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I'm with Katie and Dan. I mostly drill in the center but if appropriate I'll drill at the end. SCROLLSAW703, new2woodwrk, OCtoolguy and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I think spiral blades are the best for veining.. I need to invest in some smaller drill bits though.. I think my smallest is around a 60 maybe.. all heck maybe it's a 68 LOL can't remember... as you can see I don't use them a lot.. That said.. many times I'm too lazy to swap out my straight blade for a spiral for just a small amount of veining too... this is where I like removable blade holders.. as with my Hawk.. I keep several different blades all loaded into a holder and blade swapping is soo much more convenient.. But heck.. got so many saws out there now.. I could just use a different blade for each saw, LOL Anyway, whatever blade you choose will work.. I just think the spiral blade gives a nice kerf and a neater look.. but either blade will do the job.. Just make sure to use some small bits and try to drill the hole in a thicker section of the veining area.. For me in the + I'd drill in the center or in this < > I'd drill at the points.. as where two line meet up has a larger drilling area than where there is just a thin line like this --- SCROLLSAW703, OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, dgman said: I do as Katie except I will usually drill the hole on the end or beginning of the vein. If there ar intersecting veins, I'll drill the hole at the intersection. This hides the hole better. I do the same as this and use flat blades because that is all I need. If I need the veining to be wider I just use the blade as a plane and widen it. Usually veining is not straight lines but they can be so just need to take your time. new2woodwrk, Lucky2, SCROLLSAW703 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I pretty much do the same as Dan and Katie and others. I find a place least likely to show the entry hole and use a #71 drill bit to cut the veining. I normally use a flat blade and just take my time. OCtoolguy, new2woodwrk and SCROLLSAW703 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 I cut all the feathers for the dream catchers I make. They are 3/32" thick. I drill one hole at the bottom & use a #0/2 flat blade, & follow the opposite direction of the feather in order to get the outside cuts. In the center, I drill one hole, cut the center out. I use small spiral blades when I'm cutting animals. Like shoulder lines, jaw lines, tail lines, tree lines, leaves, etc. I use a 68 or 70 bit, & start in cutting in those places a flat blade won't make the turns. OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 I do as many others and try to find an intersection of two veins. If the veins are close enough I might create my own intersection. Remember know one will ever know after you remove the pattern. It will really depend on the pattern but I have also drilled pilot holes on both ends of a vein to give a balanced look. Be creative. OCtoolguy, new2woodwrk, SCROLLSAW703 and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Determine what blade you want to use, then use the smallest entry hole that will let the blade pass through. As others have said, look for the most discrete location for the entry hole. Intersections are great, but not always available. Look for ways to blend the entry hole into the vein. Depending on the location, I sometimes cut the vein with a straight blade, then go back with a spiral blade to open it up a little more. Several ways to skin the proverbial cat. new2woodwrk, SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I do the same as JTTHECLOCKMAN, I would never use a spiral blade to cut veining work. The veining I cut is very narrow work, IMO it requires a flt blade for it to look the way it should. Len new2woodwrk, SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 There is another way to do veining work, and it's to use a pyro set-up. You can burn the fine lines required to make the project look right, but you would have to burn both sides of the project. Len new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Is that Kosher? OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky2 Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) No Les, it isn't kosher for me, but some people don't like using fine cutting flat blades. And some people do it that way, because they don't have the proper tools and blades to cut fine lines. Len Edited April 11, 2018 by Lucky2 SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I do like the idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 10:14 PM, Lucky2 said: There is another way to do veining work, and it's to use a pyro set-up. You can burn the fine lines required to make the project look right, but you would have to burn both sides of the project. Len Thanks Len, sounds a bit more advanced for me at the moment :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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