Round Or Square Clock Backer ?

[newfie]

Great looking clocks the moose is my favorite one maybe because we do a lot of moose hunting up this way. Is there a pattern available for it somewhere? As for the backer on that one I would cut a piece shaped like a moose antler stain it a nice golden brown glue the clock piece to it leave it natural and a few coats of clear finish on it. Thanks for sharing 

[spotsdad]

If you are making 'hand-made' clocks (or anything) do you want it to look perfect (like production run) or do you want individuality. 'Slight' variations between piece and backer shows that it is hand-made and should not matter to those people buying it.

Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

Beautiful work by the way.

Dick

[kmmcrafts]

9 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

I can do it and have done it. Its all is about your skill of scrolling. The little tricks you teach yourself when learning to scroll such as let the blade cut and apply just enough force to cut. Look ahead of the pattern line anticipating the move and so on. I know the photos I am showing are not circles but the same idea is with patterns to get them right so they line up well. These are older photos and I have no way to blow them up but if you can enlarge you will see some pretty tight accuracy. This technique is very important when doing those fold out baskets or trivets as they were called. That is 10 maybe 12  circles next to each other constantly getting smaller. I always checked peoples work when I see those and that tells me what kind of scroller they are. Bad cuts jump up and out at you easily. That is where I learned to cut accurately because I made a ton of those trivets over the years when they were popular. have no web photos because that was before I even owned a computer. Have plenty of still photos. 

Yeah, I also can do very close to perfect cutting on one of the other more aggressive saws.. I know it's about letting the blade do the work...  You do very nice work JT.. but I'd have to see that stuff in a much higher quality photo or in person to judge how good it really is..  My photos I take are with a high end camera... I see things on my photos I do not see with the naked eye.. Stupid little fuzzies really show up.. or a piece of dust, lint etc..  even though I sand the back.. use a reverse blade and also burn with the torch, LOL they sometimes are seen in the photo.. but not with the naked eye or even with my magnifier light.. I have to down size the photos to load them up online once I take the background out of them and make the back white.. 

Like I said I am my own critic.. I do have a hard time sawing on the Hawk with 3/4 - 1-1/2 inch stacks of backers.. but not so much with the Ex or DeWalt.. Not cutting on the saw brands.. cutting on myself.. Hawk is awesome for me with 5/8" or thinner stacks or solid wood.. I told myself this year I'm going to get used to using it.. I have not run the DeWalt yet this year.. But have used the Excalibur to make the puzzles I made..  Using the Hawk.. I just have to do less stacks.. because I feel like I'm watching paint dry or something, LOL.. Like I said.. not the saws fault.. my fault.. I do like cutting fast because that is what I'm use to doing on the DeWalt for the last 12 years.. 

While these clocks didn't turn out "bad" they are not done with my normal quality of work.. and that is why I was looking to maybe change the backer up.. suppose I can just use the DeWalt to cut those big stacks.. but that goes against the rule I set for myself of not using it this year, LOL... In fact very soon I plan to take it apart and put the new bearings etc in it that I bought last summer.. Then I will use it enough to do some testing cut for tuning it up etc..  

[kmmcrafts]

3 hours ago, newfie said:

Great looking clocks the moose is my favorite one maybe because we do a lot of moose hunting up this way. Is there a pattern available for it somewhere? As for the backer on that one I would cut a piece shaped like a moose antler stain it a nice golden brown glue the clock piece to it leave it natural and a few coats of clear finish on it. Thanks for sharing 

Yeah the pattern is in this book..

Well sorry I already deleted my photo.. The photo is posted in my post on the deer clock posting in the bragging section..

Edited: I copied the photo from the other posting 

 

Edited May 6, 2018 by kmmcrafts

[kmmcrafts]

42 minutes ago, spotsdad said:

If you are making 'hand-made' clocks (or anything) do you want it to look perfect (like production run) or do you want individuality. 'Slight' variations between piece and backer shows that it is hand-made and should not matter to those people buying it.

Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

Beautiful work by the way.

Dick

I do agree.. but I still strive for the perfection of a machine.. 

[kmmcrafts]

On 5/4/2018 at 4:52 PM, octoolguy said:

Kevin, check out this youtube video. It looks like a pretty good circle jig and should do everything you need. I'm going to make one like this and toss my old one.

R

 

Thanks for sharing that with me.. I have been wanting to make one so I could make some lazy Susan's and some cutting boards etc.. I did make a lazy susan last year and just cut it on my scroll saw.. I'm not all that great on a bandsaw with free hand work.. I mostly used it for resawing and free hand bandsaw boxes.. 

[OCtoolguy]

4 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Thanks for sharing that with me.. I have been wanting to make one so I could make some lazy Susan's and some cutting boards etc.. I did make a lazy susan last year and just cut it on my scroll saw.. I'm not all that great on a bandsaw with free hand work.. I mostly used it for resawing and free hand bandsaw boxes.. 

The bandsaw is very handy to have. I use it a lot. I don't have room for a dedicated table saw. I have one that folds up and I have to set it up everytime I want to make a quick cut. So, I have put my bandsaw to use many times just to make that "quick" cut. Of course it does have size limitations so I still have to set up my table saw from time to time. I try to plan my projects around that sort of like planning a run to Home Depot for the folks who live out in the country.

R

 

[tomsteve]

On 5/4/2018 at 2:51 PM, kmmcrafts said:

 

So what do you all think if I glued the clocks to a square backer board?  Personally I like to use a decorative design for the outer edge of the clocks like the last picture shows... however that isn't always fitting for the design at hand..

im wondering what the look would be if ya turned the back 45 degrees( i think that would be it) to make one of the corners of the back in line with the "12".

[kmmcrafts]

I ended up just cutting the circle shape of the clock by tracing around the cutting with a washer as I always do.. i might play around with different ideas later on.. I all of a sudden have a customer that seen the picture I posted on instagram of it.. and wants to buy one.. so.. I opted to just do my normal thing with it.. was mainly looking for ideas etc .. 

I do kinda like the idea of rotating the square 45 degrees.. Might have to look and see how that would work on my next clock batch I make..

 

Thanks a bunch for all the suggestions,

 

 

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

If you are going to get into things like that then just 45 the corners as another idea. A circle jig has to be one of the easiest jigs to make for a bandsaw. You can cut circles on a tablesaw also. basically the same principle. You can also make a template and use a template cutting router bit. Once set up any of those methods would be faster than cutting on a scrollsaw.