Dave Monk Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 I am working on a project of 1/8" baltic birch with 1/8" backer and mounting in picture frame. I got my fretwork done...........made a backer just a bit bigger......painted it...........used MMM spray glue on the back of the fretwork and applied it to the backer. Worked out great for me. OCtoolguy, crupiea, SCROLLSAW703 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 I've thought about trying it.. but always thought it might get onto the cutout sections of the wood and show on the front side.. or be sticky and all the dust sticks to it over the years.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted May 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: I've thought about trying it.. but always thought it might get onto the cutout sections of the wood and show on the front side.. or be sticky and all the dust sticks to it over the years.. Worked great. I use an old piece of granite countertop on the bottom and top instead of clamping. There was a small spec of glue on the face of my fret work when I was done...sanded right off.....sprayed lacquer over it and no sign of glue anywhere. I don't think the spray glue would work very well if you had to worry about lining something up. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Dave I have been doing it that way for a long time... So far have had no problems... Dave Monk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackman Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 I have used the 77 3M on colored paper for backer attached to plywood but after about a year the paper came detatched from the wood. Maybe I didn’t do something right. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 I would never do this. Spend too much time cutting a piece and having glued sprayed into frets and edges. Many different ways to do this but that is not mine good luck with your method and hope it works well for you. I have posted mine many times here. Love my sponge method. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Always interested in hearing about something different that someone tried and liked. I never thought spray glue would actually support a wood backer. There is always a learning process in scrolling. I use the small 4 inch paint roller and then I do not get any glue seepage that way. It sure works well for me. Dick heppnerguy OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 9 hours ago, heppnerguy said: Always interested in hearing about something different that someone tried and liked. I never thought spray glue would actually support a wood backer. There is always a learning process in scrolling. I use the small 4 inch paint roller and then I do not get any glue seepage that way. It sure works well for me. Dick heppnerguy Dick, I use it a on all my cuttings that I use poster board for a backer. I would hesitate to use it with a wood backer, maybe it would be to heavy. I lay the picture face down and spray the adhesive straight down over it. Then I put the backer poster board on. I have not had one come off yet nor do I see any glue in the frets or edges. On any backer that is painted and wood, like 1/8" plywood, I glue and often time use tiny screws or tacks in addition. Dave Monk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 13 hours ago, Scrappile said: Dick, I use it a on all my cuttings that I use poster board for a backer. I would hesitate to use it with a wood backer, maybe it would be to heavy. I lay the picture face down and spray the adhesive straight down over it. Then I put the backer poster board on. I have not had one come off yet nor do I see any glue in the frets or edges. On any backer that is painted and wood, like 1/8" plywood, I glue and often time use tiny screws or tacks in addition. Interesting.. I guess we must not have talked about that aspect of scrolling. I just thought the spray glue was made for paper to wood or other materials but not wood to wood. I told you I was ignorant of many things and here I proved it once more Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 10 hours ago, heppnerguy said: Interesting.. I guess we must not have talked about that aspect of scrolling. I just thought the spray glue was made for paper to wood or other materials but not wood to wood. I told you I was ignorant of many things and here I proved it once more Dick heppnerguy Poster Board (maybe not the right name?) is paper, just heavier paper. Ya, I checked, it is called Poster Board. Comes in a lot of colors, I use the flat black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Scrappile said: Poster Board (maybe not the right name?) is paper, just heavier paper. Ya, I checked, it is called Poster Board. Comes in a lot of colors, I use the flat black. Oh yes... poster board I knew about.. I thought you were all talking about like 1/8th in ply or 1/4 inch ply as a backer board. But Dave Monk is referring to ply to ply.. A little different then poster board to ply.. I am not surprised by what you are talking about, as I too have done that but I have never tried to do ply to ply with spray. That one is a new one to me Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 9 hours ago, heppnerguy said: Oh yes... poster board I knew about.. I thought you were all talking about like 1/8th in ply or 1/4 inch ply as a backer board. But Dave Monk is referring to ply to ply.. A little different then poster board to ply.. I am not surprised by what you are talking about, as I too have done that but I have never tried to do ply to ply with spray. That one is a new one to me Dick heppnerguy You are correct, I have never tried it with ply as a backer, nor with anything painted. But it the picture is to be framed, do you even need to glue the backer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Scrappile said: You are correct, I have never tried it with ply as a backer, nor with anything painted. But it the picture is to be framed, do you even need to glue the backer? Good question.. If the frame hardware is holding everything secure, then I would have to agree with your thoughts and say, "no" Dick heppnerguy OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 I always spray 3M 77 on the back of my cuttings, then apply my felt or painted packer to my cutting, that way I don't have any seepage on my cuttings, been doing this for years and never had a problem, just my opinion. edward OCtoolguy and Dave Monk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkey Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 8:14 AM, trackman said: I have used the 77 3M on colored paper for backer attached to plywood but after about a year the paper came detatched from the wood. Maybe I didn’t do something right. I do the same thing but then I also add a few staples from the back of the paper. I have never had one come apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 8 hours ago, edward said: I always spray 3M 77 on the back of my cuttings, then apply my felt or painted packer to my cutting, that way I don't have any seepage on my cuttings, been doing this for years and never had a problem, just my opinion. edward I also have to agree with you on this one, but I was under the impression that Dave was using the spray glue to add a wooden backer and I was surprised it would even work for that. As far as felt of poster paper, I too have done it that way Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I want to add that I admire all of Dave Monk's projects and his ingenuity and trust completely in anything he says. I was just surprised to hear that one could attach a two quarter inch boards, satisfactorily with a spray glue. There is always something to learn in scrolling. That is one of the things that makes this hobby so interesting to me. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm always looking for "new" and "better" ways of doing things - thanks for sharing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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