Iguanadon Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) While browsing on Amazon the Scrollnado popped up on my screen and I looked at it and figured, why not and purchased it. I installed it today and aside from the fact that the instructions leave a lot to be desired, once I figured it out and hooked it up, I must say it does a fine job of capturing almost all the dust, from underneath and on top. I have it hooked up to my Dust Deputy and then to my Shop Vac. Anyone else using it? https://www.amazon.com/SCROLLNADO-collection-scroll-Dewalt-40-690/dp/B01KCNI77C Edited October 5, 2018 by Iguanadon poupster2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I was always wanting to build a copy of one of those.. My issue is.. I never seem to find the time or want to spend that time actually tinkering around to make it.. I probably should just buy the darn thing, LOL... That said though.. I think I've only used my DeWalt one time this year and i didn't even do a complete cut on it then moved to a different saw, LOL I will say that I hooked up my shop vac to my Excalibur dust port thing below the table.. and Yeah.. it keeps the dust WAY down.. I'm glad to hear from someone that has it.. Seyco sells a dust extractor thing that an hang right on the saw.. is small and quiet.. I keep thinking about that thing as opposed to a shop vac.. and I've also thought about those expensive Festool dust extractors.. My shop vac works great.. just too noisy for my taste.. I talked with the Rep and they demonstrated the Festool last month for me... awesome machine but wow is it pricey.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I guess I'm just a cheapskate. I looked at it and thought $50 for that? So, I made my own with some PVC and a few other pieces. My system works great. I'm going to make something similar for my EX. I guess it is just me but I can't spend money on something that I can make myself. That and the fact that now, I'm on a fixed income and have to watch every dollar. Old Joe and John B 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguanadon Posted October 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, octoolguy said: I guess I'm just a cheapskate. I looked at it and thought $50 for that? So, I made my own with some PVC and a few other pieces. My system works great. I'm going to make something similar for my EX. I guess it is just me but I can't spend money on something that I can make myself. That and the fact that now, I'm on a fixed income and have to watch every dollar. Perfectly understandable. And for me it's a matter of I simply don't have the time (nor the patience) to try to make something from scratch figuring out what to use, buy the parts, tinker with it, etc. Once I finally hit retirement I'd absolutely enjoy doing a project like this. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 It's funny though, if it had been $39.95, I might have gone for it. I just thought it was overpriced. Probably only cost them a couple of bucks to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, octoolguy said: I guess I'm just a cheapskate. I looked at it and thought $50 for that? So, I made my own with some PVC and a few other pieces. My system works great. I'm going to make something similar for my EX. I guess it is just me but I can't spend money on something that I can make myself. That and the fact that now, I'm on a fixed income and have to watch every dollar. While I agree with you 100%.. I also know that time is money to some people and you can spend $10-15 on tubing and an hour trying to figure out your set-up etc.. Not sure what some of you all charge or make per hour at your job.. but for me an hours time is that $50... so then you ask yourself.. do i play around and try to make something... or do i just pend $50 and be done with it... OCtoolguy and tomsteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackman Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I was at a show in Ohio a year ago and brought one for my EX. Got it for $20. As said the instructions were leak. But it does a good job. One problem is I am a top feeder an I had to make the bottom hole larger to be able to hit the hole. While cutting compound pattern I had to move the top tube so it would clear the blank. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianr24 Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 My first impression was ... a bit pricey for a tube. But I understand if you wouldn’t want to make one and rather spend ur time scrolling. What I don’t get is all you guys that use dust collection when scrolling. How do u run a shop vac that long ? and how do you put up with the noise? I use dust collection on my other tools but it only run for a few minutes at a time. I would think you must burn up a shop vac pretty quick. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) Several people have posted their home made systems on the forum that work really well. One advantage that the home made systems have is they have larger tubes with greater airflow. I have included a picture of mine. However, this is a good solution if you do not have time to build your own. I think it is a better solution than using a fan to blow the dust away. Edited October 5, 2018 by Sycamore67 OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgiro Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 I got the Excalibur version of that thing at a wood working show, along with the Drill-nado. Show price for both was about $65. After a few modifications, the scroll-nado works OK. I wouldn't recommend paying the Amazon price, though. I priced the materials at Lowes & HD ans it came out to around $30. Forget about the Drill-nado. Not worth it. It does suck the chips really well, but the other issues make it not worth the while. I posted a review of these gadgets on the SSWC forum. I can repost it here if anyone wants. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: While I agree with you 100%.. I also know that time is money to some people and you can spend $10-15 on tubing and an hour trying to figure out your set-up etc.. Not sure what some of you all charge or make per hour at your job.. but for me an hours time is that $50... so then you ask yourself.. do i play around and try to make something... or do i just pend $50 and be done with it... If I was still working for wages, I'd have to agree but since I'm not, well like I said above. Every dollar helps. John B and kmmcrafts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianr24 said: My first impression was ... a bit pricey for a tube. But I understand if you wouldn’t want to make one and rather spend ur time scrolling. What I don’t get is all you guys that use dust collection when scrolling. How do u run a shop vac that long ? and how do you put up with the noise? I use dust collection on my other tools but it only run for a few minutes at a time. I would think you must burn up a shop vac pretty quick. If you can find a used Fein or Porter Cable vac that has the power tool trigger, it only runs when I'm cutting and it's very quiet. Granted, it's still noise but I like it better than having a fan blowing the dust around. I hate wearing a dust mask but sometimes, if I think about it, I'll still wear one. I have a box fan and furnace filter to the right of my Dewalt. It works fairly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I use a Festool vac on mine and is quiet and only runs when the saw is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackman Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianr24 said: My first impression was ... a bit pricey for a tube. But I understand if you wouldn’t want to make one and rather spend ur time scrolling. What I don’t get is all you guys that use dust collection when scrolling. How do u run a shop vac that long ? and how do you put up with the noise? I use dust collection on my other tools but it only run for a few minutes at a time. I would think you must burn up a shop vac pretty quick. I have my shop vac plugged into the same foot switch as the saw. Saw on shop vac on. Been running this away for 2 years. The vac is under the work bench enclosed for sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iguanadon Posted October 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Brianr24 said: My first impression was ... a bit pricey for a tube. But I understand if you wouldn’t want to make one and rather spend ur time scrolling. What I don’t get is all you guys that use dust collection when scrolling. How do u run a shop vac that long ? and how do you put up with the noise? I use dust collection on my other tools but it only run for a few minutes at a time. I would think you must burn up a shop vac pretty quick. As mentioned by another, my shop vac is plugged into my foot switch so it's on and off with my saw. I need to enclose it in something to deaden the sound as it is a bit annoying. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) Wow that is alot of wear on a vac if you have on foot switch with saw. I know myself I do a ton of pierce cutting and that thing would be on and off way too much. The Fein vac is very quiet but pricey. I do not use a vac but use a dust mask and have a air cleaner going to suck small particles out of the air. My larger tools I have a dust collector hooked to each tool. I do all my sanding outdoors so that is not a problem but if I have to, I do have a downdraft table I can sand on hooked to dust collector. After each session I shop vac all small pieces and any dust around saw so I am ready for next day. Leave the air cleaner on for about an hour after I am done and shut off later. I have been meaning to put a timer on that thing but like everyone time is not easy to find even when retired. Shop vacs are extremely noisy. Mine the bearing is going on it and it whines even louder. That thing owes me nothing. It is an old Sears model from many years ago. Have the air blower hose blowing dust away from me and any dust that is under saw who cares. I vac that at end of day. Edited October 6, 2018 by JTTHECLOCKMAN John B and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I have my dust ctrl setup beneath my saw with a pvc fitting and small fan - seems to work fine for me. The $50 price tag on that thing doesn't seem high for someone that needs it OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I guess my set up is very much like JT's.. I clean every day sometimes twice a day.. I ran my shop vac on my EX via foot switch just as a test to see how it goes.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctutor Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I use it and find it great. I made a couple of mods. Put the tube on the left since I have a lifter installed. I also pinched the tube to keep the bigger pieces from being sucked up. I find that I periodically need to reverse the suction on the vacuum to blow out any pieces that get picked up. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I just use the cheap HF dust collector and have it mounted outside the wall of my shop. Two inch diameter tube sucks everything including small chips. Sometime I shall divert some of the suction to the top of the saw. But not today. OCtoolguy and kmmcrafts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, Rockytime said: I just use the cheap HF dust collector and have it mounted outside the wall of my shop. Two inch diameter tube sucks everything including small chips. Sometime I shall divert some of the suction to the top of the saw. But not today. Is this the bigger roll around dust collector machine? or the smaller ones? I have the bigger roll around style that I have hooked to the planer and bandsaw... amazing how much sawdust comes from the bandsaw when resawing LOL.. Anyway I ask because I've read how these like I have are great for sawdust but not the real fine stuff.. so just wondering what you have and your experience with how well it does.. I keep thinking about piping it to my saw and seeing with my own eyes how well it does.. seems like if it had enough to suck those bigger chips from the planner it's work good with the fine dust.. That'd save a lot of money from buying the Festool.. other than I want to use the Festool for my sanders too.. LOL.. but until I get the extra funds.. I could use the HF machine.. if it works good. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said: Is this the bigger roll around dust collector machine? or the smaller ones? I have the bigger roll around style that I have hooked to the planer and bandsaw... amazing how much sawdust comes from the bandsaw when resawing LOL.. Anyway I ask because I've read how these like I have are great for sawdust but not the real fine stuff.. so just wondering what you have and your experience with how well it does.. I keep thinking about piping it to my saw and seeing with my own eyes how well it does.. seems like if it had enough to suck those bigger chips from the planner it's work good with the fine dust.. That'd save a lot of money from buying the Festool.. other than I want to use the Festool for my sanders too.. LOL.. but until I get the extra funds.. I could use the HF machine.. if it works good. Kevin, it's all about the piping and the size of pipes to each machine. There is a whole thing in the engineering of the system in order to get what you want/need at each machine. I had one of the cheaper vacs. It was a one horse/110 unit. I dedicated it to my Unisaw back in the day. It did a great job. I bought a fine filter bag for it that did a much better job of filtering the dust out. Anyway, if you take the 4" hose that usually hooks to these units and pipe it down to what you need at each machine it works great. I have the Fein that I bought used and have it necked down to 1" pvc at my Dewalt. I bought the flex line stuff that has a funnel shaped nozzle. Both above and below the table. It works great. The next one I build for the EX is going to be 1 1/2 pvc and I'll try necking it to 1" and see what happens. There is a ton of suction at the nozzles and that is where most of the noise comes from. I don't even hear the Fein in the back ground. kmmcrafts and Zephyr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: Is this the bigger roll around dust collector machine? or the smaller ones? I have the bigger roll around style that I have hooked to the planer and bandsaw... amazing how much sawdust comes from the bandsaw when resawing LOL.. Anyway I ask because I've read how these like I have are great for sawdust but not the real fine stuff.. so just wondering what you have and your experience with how well it does.. I keep thinking about piping it to my saw and seeing with my own eyes how well it does.. seems like if it had enough to suck those bigger chips from the planner it's work good with the fine dust.. That'd save a lot of money from buying the Festool.. other than I want to use the Festool for my sanders too.. LOL.. but until I get the extra funds.. I could use the HF machine.. if it works good. Kevin, I have the small one. I use 4" PVC to bring it into my shop and use a gate with a 2" reducer and a 2" flex hose to the saw. At first I made a reducer to a 1" flex hose which dramatically reduced the suction. Therefore I went back to the 2" hose. If I set it up for dust collection at the top also I will use a splitter and use two 1" flex hoses. I won't reduce the air flow more than 2" total. Yes the DC does pick up smaller pieces that drop down around the blade. There is excellent suction there. kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rockytime said: Kevin, I have the small one. I use 4" PVC to bring it into my shop and use a gate with a 2" reducer and a 2" flex hose to the saw. At first I made a reducer to a 1" flex hose which dramatically reduced the suction. Therefore I went back to the 2" hose. If I set it up for dust collection at the top also I will use a splitter and use two 1" flex hoses. I won't reduce the air flow more than 2" total. Yes the DC does pick up smaller pieces that drop down around the blade. There is excellent suction there. Thank you.. I may have to mess around and see if i can hook up mine and see how it goes.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poupster2 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Thanks Iggy for posting about the Scrollnado. I also need to just bite the bullet and get one. I'm glad It worked for you. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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