flarud Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Howdy, I've been scrolling for just a little over a year, mostly Steve Good's patterns and some of my own. All of which have been easy for me, just follow the lines. I found in SSV's pattern shop my dream car. My question is, what part do I cut out? I just can't "see" it in my head yet. The car is not flat, it is 3D. Is all of the black parts just a backer board? If so, are the two wheels that you see a separate cut-out and are just floating? A few years ago I bought my wife her dream car..a Plum Crazy Dodge Challenger....it was only about the size of my palm and would honk it's horn if you pushed the little black button on the top,, and then a few years later we actually got her that car in life size. I'm thinking along the same lines for me. Make this "toy" car and maybe a real one will show up in my driveway soon! BTW, thanks for the pattern tennman! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 I did a bucket fill with a light colored wood. This is how it should look when you're done... Cut out the black areas.. then put a backer board of your choice of colors.. tomsteve, OCtoolguy and JLawson56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Also most use black backers but it doesn't always need to be black.. here is a couple I've done in other than black colors.. tomsteve, JLawson56, bobscroll and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Those wheels are an illusion at least they always are for me. Notice the little white portions connecting the rims to the background. Like you I do not visualize too well so I have to look at those little things. I have a pattern of a John Deere tractor to cut. I have to slow down and try to see what holds what together. You'll do OK. OCtoolguy and JLawson56 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLawson56 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 When I first started I was confused as well.You got a lot of Great help up there.You'll do fine,just cut the black. OCtoolguy and tomsteve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: I did a bucket fill with a light colored wood. This is how it should look when you're done... Cut out the black areas.. then put a backer board of your choice of colors.. Kevin, how do you do a "bucket fill"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 @octoolguy. I do this in gimp as it has some pre-loaded "wood colors" as to how I do it.. LOL that's a good one that I probably can't explain to well since I don't really know how I do it, LOL.. I just know there is a bucket fill too and then you click something that said pattern fill ( I think ) then it brings up the colors to choose from.. then click the area to be filled... I do this so automatically that I'm not exactly sure how I do it, LOL.. anyway.. I learn to do this when doing portrait patterns.. you fill there area and if you have any floaters.. they stay white so it helps you find those bad areas.. or.. it colors in areas that shouldn't be colored .. Not sure that made any sense but I tried.. I don't use these tool enough to know what I'm talking about.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said: @octoolguy. I do this in gimp as it has some pre-loaded "wood colors" as to how I do it.. LOL that's a good one that I probably can't explain to well since I don't really know how I do it, LOL.. I just know there is a bucket fill too and then you click something that said pattern fill ( I think ) then it brings up the colors to choose from.. then click the area to be filled... I do this so automatically that I'm not exactly sure how I do it, LOL.. anyway.. I learn to do this when doing portrait patterns.. you fill there area and if you have any floaters.. they stay white so it helps you find those bad areas.. or.. it colors in areas that shouldn't be colored .. Not sure that made any sense but I tried.. I don't use these tool enough to know what I'm talking about.. You told me enough that I can figure it out. I should have asked you what software you were using but you answered it right off. I have Gimp but it is still a very big cloud for me. I know that someday I will have to give it a try but right now, I'm still trying to learn Inkscape and it is far easier. I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 11 hours ago, octoolguy said: You told me enough that I can figure it out. I should have asked you what software you were using but you answered it right off. I have Gimp but it is still a very big cloud for me. I know that someday I will have to give it a try but right now, I'm still trying to learn Inkscape and it is far easier. I think. Ray, if you check many different graphic/paint programs have the "bucket fill" option in them. It is a quick way to "fill" an object with color. I believe Inkscape may have it but can't remember for sure off the top of my head and it is not on the computer I am on. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, meflick said: Ray, if you check many different graphic/paint programs have the "bucket fill" option in them. It is a quick way to "fill" an object with color. I believe Inkscape may have it but can't remember for sure off the top of my head and it is not on the computer I am on. Yes inkscape also has it.. but I've never seen anywhere that has a "wood look color"... When I do a custom order for a customer I do the wood looking bucket fill to show them a simulation of what it'd look like... as there are many folks that get confused with the black and white drawing and they cannot visualize what it is going to be.. so this is very helpful to me as a seller to email a simulation photo... normal colors work as well but I think the wood colors give a better simulation.. meflick and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredfret Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 The hardest parts of this pattern are the antenna and the grill. I would make sure to protect those areas after cutting by leaving the waste pieces in and taping them. Take your time OCtoolguy and tomsteve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 hours ago, meflick said: Ray, if you check many different graphic/paint programs have the "bucket fill" option in them. It is a quick way to "fill" an object with color. I believe Inkscape may have it but can't remember for sure off the top of my head and it is not on the computer I am on. I have seen that feature in Inkscape, Paint, and Gimp but how do you fill only the areas that you want to be filled? I still haven't learned these programs well enough to be able to use them effectively. I appreciate your patience with my slow learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flarud Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, fredfret said: The hardest parts of this pattern are the antenna and the grill. I would make sure to protect those areas after cutting by leaving the waste pieces in and taping them. Take your time I was thinking the same about the antenna. I thought about deleting the antenna, but the details is what makes it nice. I guess I didn't look close enough at the grill, it will be a bugger too! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, flarud said: I was thinking the same about the antenna. I thought about deleting the antenna, but the details is what makes it nice. I guess I didn't look close enough at the grill, it will be a bugger too! I believe many of these car patterns are designed for a minimum of a size of 11 x 14.. I might even consider bigger than that.. the larger the pattern / cutting the larger those delicate pieces will be.. I did the duster one a few years ago and originally printed a sheet of paper size... no way to cut it that small... at least not back then.. I might could attempt it now that I have much more experience with delicate stuff.. LOL OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, octoolguy said: I have seen that feature in Inkscape, Paint, and Gimp but how do you fill only the areas that you want to be filled? I still haven't learned these programs well enough to be able to use them effectively. I appreciate your patience with my slow learning curve. Ray.. you just click the mouse over the area to be filled... It'll fill the whole area though unless there are boarder lines.. This is why we use it to see if a pattern has any floaters.. just click the pattern.. if there is an area that has a floater.. that area will not be filled.. because it has the boarder around it.. I'm thinking this is discussed in the pattern videos that Travis has put up... but that is a lot of videos to watch to catch the right one with this info in it.. I don't do enough pattern stuff yet to really know what I'm doing.. I've done patterns for several years... but not often enough to remember what I'm doing.. I'm slowly getting it on some things.. I just don't seem to do enough repetitive times to remember everything.. then many times I'm too busy to try so i ask here for a pattern... personally not my thing but yet I want to learn if that makes any sense.. much rather buy a pattern LOL.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: Ray.. you just click the mouse over the area to be filled... It'll fill the whole area though unless there are boarder lines.. This is why we use it to see if a pattern has any floaters.. just click the pattern.. if there is an area that has a floater.. that area will not be filled.. because it has the boarder around it.. I'm thinking this is discussed in the pattern videos that Travis has put up... but that is a lot of videos to watch to catch the right one with this info in it.. I don't do enough pattern stuff yet to really know what I'm doing.. I've done patterns for several years... but not often enough to remember what I'm doing.. I'm slowly getting it on some things.. I just don't seem to do enough repetitive times to remember everything.. then many times I'm too busy to try so i ask here for a pattern... personally not my thing but yet I want to learn if that makes any sense.. much rather buy a pattern LOL.. That's my problem too Kevin. If I do something enough times, it will eventually register in the gray matter between my ears. I'm having so much fun learning to scroll with all of the ins and outs of the hobby that it's hard to find time to learn the software. If I lived where it was a very hot or cold climate and just didn't feel like going out to the shop, I'd probably learn how all this stuff works. I already spend waaaay too much time on the computer. As much as I love this forum, it has become a bain to my scrolling for that reason. Oh well, a person should never stop learning so here I sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crupiea Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 I hate those patterns that just seem to boggle the eyes. Whats worse is when you start cutting and halfway through you get that scrollsaw hypnosis i call it and forget what you are doing. Was I suppose to cut that or leave that? I think it is overthinking that has something to do with it, at least in my case it is. Scrollsaw hypnosis also kicks in on long straight lines where your focus goes in and out, your mind wanders and you have to focus and refocus and it takes everything you have just to stay on the line. Big circles will do this too for some reason. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 38 minutes ago, crupiea said: I hate those patterns that just seem to boggle the eyes. Whats worse is when you start cutting and halfway through you get that scrollsaw hypnosis i call it and forget what you are doing. Was I suppose to cut that or leave that? I think it is overthinking that has something to do with it, at least in my case it is. Scrollsaw hypnosis also kicks in on long straight lines where your focus goes in and out, your mind wanders and you have to focus and refocus and it takes everything you have just to stay on the line. Big circles will do this too for some reason. You just need to cut really fast so you don’t have time to lose your focus. crupiea and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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