SCROLLSAW703 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Howdy. Well, I am stuck. My Grand daughter and I were just commissioned to make an Urn for these folks for their Grandfather. Near as we can find out at the moment, they have no Urn of any kind for safe keepin' of the remains. So, as of right now, the only request they have is they'd like a Walleye cut into the Urn. Their choice of wood was "doesn't matter.":( So, right now, my thoughts are to put together a glue up the height of the Urn with say walnut & maple, cut the Walleye like an inlay in the glue up, and then cut the glue up into four equal pieces, make a base and a lid, and put the four pieces back together so the walleye wraps around the Urn. Or, the other idea I am kickin' around is tryin' to locate a pattern or two of Walleye, cut them about 5'' long inlaid into the 4 sides of the Urn, and possibly the lid. From the sounds of it, this gentleman was quite the walleye fisherman, and loved every second he got on the water fishin'! I'm not new to creatin' Urns, but makin' patterns to fit the project are sometimes more complicated than the project itself. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thank you for your time. Sawdust703(brad) Edited January 2, 2019 by SCROLLSAW703 OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 I suggest you make overlays. This way you make the urn the size you need to and do all the detail work. Then have a pattern made if you do not have one and size it to fit weather all 4 sides or just the top. Make it from thin woods, acrylics, or other materials. You could paint it if you choose. WayneMahler, OCtoolguy, poupster2 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Howdy JT, That's a good thought, thank you kindly, Sir. I hadn't given overlays any consideration, but, to be honest, that may be the way to go. I appreciate your input, Sir. Sawdust703(brad) OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 I would agree with the over lays. I have several patterns for Urns and coffins. All are pretty plain and non descriptive . SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 I have built several urns and contributed to the construction of a couple more. They were all rectangular boxes. The ones that were decorated with an inlay had the inlay either on top or front panel with most electing to display on the front panel. I believe Sheila Landry has a walleye design. OCtoolguy, Roberta Moreton and SCROLLSAW703 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 15 hours ago, NC Scroller said: I have built several urns and contributed to the construction of a couple more. They were all rectangular boxes. The ones that were decorated with an inlay had the inlay either on top or front panel with most electing to display on the front panel. I believe Sheila Landry has a walleye design. Thank you Sir. I will look into her patterns. I greatly appreciate your input. Sawdust703(brad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 NC Scroller, I appreciate your input, Sir. Mr. Wayne, yours too, Sir. I've been thinkin' about all your advice, and we finally were able to get a few more details this afternoon. It sounds like the remains were divided between the brother and sister, and it is her Father, not her Grandfather. My apologies for the mistake. And she has been keeping the remains in a shoe box on account of she is not able to afford an Urn. This young lady mentioned to my Granddaughter today that she "kinda liked the looks of tiger wood." I'm not goin' into what I had to say, but, the dimensions I'm kickin' around are about 6" wide x 6" deep x 6" tall, and sit it on an 8" base, with a lid. Holy Christmas! If she ain't able to afford an Urn, any ideas how she's goin' to pay for this big idea of tiger wood? I can get it at a small lumber yard about a days' worth of drivin' round trip, and I haven't priced the wood yet! Now what's your thoughts? Sawdust703(brad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, SCROLLSAW703 said: NC Scroller, I appreciate your input, Sir. Mr. Wayne, yours too, Sir. I've been thinkin' about all your advice, and we finally were able to get a few more details this afternoon. It sounds like the remains were divided between the brother and sister, and it is her Father, not her Grandfather. My apologies for the mistake. And she has been keeping the remains in a shoe box on account of she is not able to afford an Urn. This young lady mentioned to my Granddaughter today that she "kinda liked the looks of tiger wood." I'm not goin' into what I had to say, but, the dimensions I'm kickin' around are about 6" wide x 6" deep x 6" tall, and sit it on an 8" base, with a lid. Holy Christmas! If she ain't able to afford an Urn, any ideas how she's goin' to pay for this big idea of tiger wood? I can get it at a small lumber yard about a days' worth of drivin' round trip, and I haven't priced the wood yet! Now what's your thoughts? Sawdust703(brad) Custom made urns will cost hundreds of dollars. Using exotic woods and inlays you might jack it up into four figures. Based on your dimensions I am guessing wood cost less the $25. If you are charging for your time I would not go less then $20 an hour unless they are very good friends. SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomanydogs Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Well Brad I can’t wait to see what you and your granddaughter create. I know it will be beautiful. SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poupster2 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Wow, Thank you for sharing Brad. Over Christmas, My (living) Parents asked me to make their cremation urns. I have to say that It took me by surprise but now I'm very honored that they asked me . I love John T's idea of an overlay but Is there any standard sizes for these Urns? Is there any good plans for them? SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLSAW703 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Howdy, The first Urn I had ever made in my 25 years of woodworking was for our Middle Daughter 3 years ago. We lost her to self induced overdose. Designin' & creatin' her Urn was a very tough job, but I will say, havin' the time to myself creatin' it and puttin' it together did help me to deal with her loss, and helped me grieve in a way I never had before. It is a bad enough experience to lose a child, it's even worse when it comes time to bury them. I guess that's part of the reason the decision was made to cremate our daughter. Were I in your boots poupster, truthfully, I would be honored if my folks ask such a task of me. Take the commission and do the best of your ability, my friend. It will be worth your efforts. I hope to get in the shop awhile this weekend and at least get something started on it. We have had an extremely busy week. I will try and post pictures as we progress. Please don't laugh at our progress. With Mary Ann bein' down with recent full knee replacement, and other community things I am involved in, sometimes projects don't progress as fast as I'd like them to. I appreciate the support and consideration. I will post pictures as soon as I can. Thank you for all your input. Sawdust703(brad) poupster2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomanydogs Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 I’m sorry to hear about your daughter, I can’t even imagine how hard that would be. And I hope Mary Ann ‘s knee recovery goes well. I am looking forward to seeing the pictures of your progress. Take care Brad Irene SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poupster2 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Brad, Thank you for sharing with us and opening your heart about your daughter. I can just imagine how hard it must have been. I'll be looking forward on seeing your progress. I will try to post some of my progress too. Take care Brad Edited January 10, 2019 by poupster2 SCROLLSAW703 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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