kmmcrafts Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Yeah you're right Les... their farmers.. and I believe this business is right at their home... so I assume they just make a very small number of these at a time.. assume they probably had to start from scratch and raw materials send out the base and legs etc. to be powder coated and whatnot.. I figured when i ordered it that it could be upwards of mid Feb. - early March before it would be sitting in my shop.. I'm not about to rush them on it.. I did call late in the week last week about having them machine the worn arms on my old 220VS.. I want that saw in top notch condition for either a back up saw.. or... so it'll be a awesome working saw for the next owner... which ever I decide.. LOL.. The price to remachine the arms was only like $25 per arm.. I'm just going to have them drill them out so they can put the circle inserts in.. so the next time it needs done.. you just buy the inserts and the new wedges .. If I sell it.. I'm not one to sell someone a piece of worn out junk.. it'll be like brand new or else I'll part it out.. too nice of saw and has already had many upgrades to part it out sooo... I'm rebuilding it.. anyway... when i called them I told them I had just ordered a new saw.. then she knew who I was.. she said it hadn't been shipped out yet.. and I never asked when it might ship out.. I'm excited to receive it.. but I have plenty of saws to play with until it arrives... OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 After further consideration, and reading old posts about breakdowns & such, I am putting my current saw on the shelf as a backup in case the new one goes down in the middle of a project. Cheap insurance I figure. Latest update is that the saw will be here no later than the 23rd. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Update: Just got a message from HD that the saw arrived broken. So I had to cancel the order. Now I am re-evaluating my options. Deep breath, taking my time.... OCtoolguy and meflick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Well, that is disappointing. Sorry it didn't work out this time. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, unclescott said: Update: Just got a message from HD that the saw arrived broken. So I had to cancel the order. Now I am re-evaluating my options. Deep breath, taking my time.... It may be a blessing in disguise. The Pegas saw is right around the corner. I have a feeling that if it is a great as their blade clamps, it's going to be a winner. And, I love the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, octoolguy said: It may be a blessing in disguise. The Pegas saw is right around the corner. I have a feeling that if it is a great as their blade clamps, it's going to be a winner. And, I love the color. It can be per-ordered from Bear Wood right now. I was reading a review at their site that says it is made in the same factory as the Excalibur, Seyco and Jet. If that is true, than it should help ease the concerns as to the quality of the Ex. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Scrappile said: It can be per-ordered from Bear Wood right now. I was reading a review at their site that says it is made in the same factory as the Excalibur, Seyco and Jet. If that is true, than it should help ease the concerns as to the quality of the Ex. Have heard the price yet? I'm curious to know what they will sell for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 If nothing else, it is sure a pretty saw! All the infor: https://www.bearwood.com/pegas-21-inch-scroll-saws-order.html OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 From what I read on the pegas saw, the only difference is the blade clamps and the name on the side OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JimErn said: From what I read on the pegas saw, the only difference is the blade clamps and the name on the side And that pretty red. That has to count for something. You mean the difference between it and the Excalibur. There are several differences the Seyco and the Excalibur/Pegas. The differences favor the Ex/Pegas in my opinion. Edited January 16, 2019 by Scrappile OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I can't see the difference between the ex and the pegas, I should have specified the Excalibur sorry kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Anybody know if they will be having a 16" model? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) A deposit of $100 to get on the list Pegas Scroll Saw - 21 Inch with Raising Arm and the Pegas Blade Clamps 21″ Throat Depth, Upper Arm Raises, Proven Motor and Linkage. PLUS the game-changing Pegas Chuck Head that has helped so many saws improve. Pre-Order now or before February 28th to secure the introductory price. Add this $100 item to your cart and purchase today.* Limited Time Introductory price: $649 or $719 with stand Regular Price is: $719 or $799 with stand *Once the saws are landed in New Jersey, we will contact you to let you place your order (shipping is going to be about $80). When the saw is ready to ship, we'll send you a coupon worth $100 to use towards the purchase of the saw - that's how you'll be able to use the $100 from this pre-order. You will also have the option to include the stand and foot pedal (see below). *Yes, you can change your mind! We will simply refund your purchase if you contact us and choose not to purchase. The pre-order just ensures you will be one of the first to get a saw from the first shipment into North America. Pegas® Scroll Saws Offer Many Valuable Benefits Edited January 16, 2019 by octoolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Red saws cut faster! meflick and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, unclescott said: Update: Just got a message from HD that the saw arrived broken. So I had to cancel the order. Now I am re-evaluating my options. Deep breath, taking my time.... Scott, I'm glad you are taking a deep breathe. My heart sunk a bit when I saw that you had ordered an EX. As curious as I am to see if General can finally ship a saw from the new Chinese factory that actually functions properly, I was very very very scared for you. The EX right now is very risky, and I've only heard horror stories on the Chinese produced models. General started shipping saws before they got the serious problems worked out on with their production, and burned some resellers. You would be safer buying any of the other EX styled brands as they are all made in the proven factory that once sold solid Excalibur's. Please count your lucky stars, and go with a Tawain made model. Edited January 17, 2019 by hotshot OCtoolguy and Scruffydog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, JimErn said: From what I read on the pegas saw, the only difference is the blade clamps and the name on the side Interestingly, if you are in the UK, Axminister is the main reseller of the Taiwan made EX type saw, and it ships with the Pegas clamps by default. https://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-trade-series-ex-21-scroll-saw-101772 Edited January 17, 2019 by hotshot OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevan Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 I talked with Steven yesterday at Bear Woods. He said the new Pegas is due to be here in late February so I went ahead and reserved one. If it is here in February, then I will be a happy camper. If not, then my trusty Hawk will carry me through. BTW, I may have a trusty 20" Hawk for sale in late February if anyone is interested. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 hours ago, hotshot said: Scott, I'm glad you are taking a deep breathe. My heart sunk a bit when I saw that you had ordered an EX. As curious as I am to see if General can finally ship a saw from the new Chinese factory that actually functions properly, I was very very very scared for you. The EX right now is very risky, and I've only heard horror stories on the Chinese produced models. General started shipping saws before they got the serious problems worked out on with their production, and burned some resellers. You would be safer buying any of the other EX styled brands as they are all made in the proven factory that once sold solid Excalibur's. Please count your lucky stars, and go with a Tawain made model. Actually, I am taking the opportunity to try, one last time, to get the vibration out of the current saw. I found some nice dense 1/4" foam in the trash at work yesterday, and will be putting it under the saw, sandwiched between that and the wood table slab, to see what that does. I'm also going to make some washers for the mounting bolts to isolate the nut and washer from the body. I figure every little bit helps. If I am successful, then I can afford to wait for a better deal. Scrappile and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 4:55 AM, stevan said: I talked with Steven yesterday at Bear Woods. He said the new Pegas is due to be here in late February so I went ahead and reserved one. If it is here in February, then I will be a happy camper. If not, then my trusty Hawk will carry me through. BTW, I may have a trusty 20" Hawk for sale in late February if anyone is interested. Where ya located Scott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 hours ago, octoolguy said: Where ya located Scott? East central Wisconsin. Sheboygan County. Update: Took most of the sheet metal off of the saw and added the foam pad. Also removed all of the plastic on top. Still vibrates, but not as bad. I'm still trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear tho. Going to putz with it again today. I have a small project for my wife to get done, so... OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Has it always vibrated? if it is a new problem then something in the mechanical's is loose. On my old delta the the set screw holding the counter weight came loose. So I went through the entire saw snugged everything up and put fresh lube on all of the moving bits. It was better than new when I was done. OCtoolguy and Ivan Nikolaev 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rolf said: Has it always vibrated? if it is a new problem then something in the mechanical's is loose. On my old delta the the set screw holding the counter weight came loose. So I went through the entire saw snugged everything up and put fresh lube on all of the moving bits. It was better than new when I was done. Yes, its always vibrated OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 When I had a old Dremel that vibrated pretty good. I mounted it between the stand and the saw a piece of foam carpet padding. When tightening the bolts down I went ahead and cranked them down tight.. which really only squished the foam and gave very little effect on the vibration... soo I run the saw at the desired speed I wanted to run it a, and started loosening the bolts one turn at a time until it got better... You can sort of fine tune the saw like this.. I was able to get that saw virtually as smooth as my DeWalt was pretty much throughout the speed ranges.. so.. this is something to try OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) So this happened today: Masterforce (Menards brand) 18 " saw. Got 11% off. Looked at it last night and slept on it. Got it this morning. Nice size table. Nice insert. Takes both styles of blade. Took off the ridiculous plastic guard before I even had it bolted down, lol. Edited January 20, 2019 by unclescott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Mounted to the stand with 2 rubber pads, rubber feet on saw, & 2 more rubber pads under lag screw washers. Vibration is in a narrow range throughout the speed dial. The work lite is nice, the blower inadequate. Weighs about 50 pounds. Carry handle. Table tilts 45 each way. Just used the blade that came with it to cut out my wifes name. First "project" of 2019. Thinking about donating the craftsman to the thrift store after I get it put back together. Will use this saw while I do more research and wait for the one I want. So I'll have a cheap saw and a good saw eventually. Edited January 20, 2019 by unclescott kmmcrafts and meflick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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