barb.j.enders Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Picked up my repaired saw earlier today!! They replaced the motor, brush assembly and connection rod assembly. Hopefully I have time tonight to do some sawdust making!!! The only thing that I should have done before sending it off would have been to put the old broken blade clamps back on the machine. Oh well. Also, apparently when the service shop I took mine to there was another one with the same issue; I was glad that it wasn't anything I did new2woodwrk, OCtoolguy, SCROLLSAW703 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Things wear out,,,, I know I am and it is nothing I have done..... Glad you have it back. Hope all is well with it, let's see some more beautiful projects now. OCtoolguy, SCROLLSAW703, Rob and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 The longest three weeks a few years back was when DeWalt had my saw. Glad to hear you can once again participate in saw therapy. SCROLLSAW703 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted January 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sadly, I have spoken to soon. Got it all set up and before I cut anything did a test run. Sounds better than it did, but still a lot of knocking and some hesitation in the speed. Heading back to the shop at lunch today. ps, I put the original clamps on this time - maybe they will fix them as well!!! 20190129_192346.mp4 OCtoolguy and Scruffydog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) Question for the experts: is it possible that the variable speed control, or the board, is bad? From my experience with machine tools, a faulty ground (ie. Loose ground wire, broken solder connection, etc) can cause all kinds of wierd problems. If the mechanism checks out - no loose joints, well lubed, etc, - then it may be time to start looking for a short somewhere or a bad ground wire. Just a thot. So far, the motor has been changed and a connecting rod assembly, correct? If the varible speed control had excessive dust in it, would it do this? Edited January 30, 2019 by Scruffydog OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, barb.j.enders said: Sadly, I have spoken to soon. Got it all set up and before I cut anything did a test run. Sounds better than it did, but still a lot of knocking and some hesitation in the speed. Heading back to the shop at lunch today. ps, I put the original clamps on this time - maybe they will fix them as well!!! 20190129_192346.mp4 6 hours ago, barb.j.enders said: Sadly, I have spoken to soon. Got it all set up and before I cut anything did a test run. Sounds better than it did, but still a lot of knocking and some hesitation in the speed. Heading back to the shop at lunch today. ps, I put the original clamps on this time - maybe they will fix them as well!!! 20190129_192346.mp4 It sounds like when they reassembled it, they either didn't get the wedge in correctly or the plate that the wedge slides against fell out. Either way, that's something they should have discovered if they did a proper test run on your saw. Shoddy workmanship is the order of the day. Edited January 30, 2019 by octoolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sounds a lot like my DeWalt saw when it's cold.. as for the hesitation part.. and it's hard to tell through the camera microphone.. but is the clanging sound due to the hesitation? because mine is also a little noisy when it does this.. usually clears up once ran for 15 second.. but in real cold temps sometimes won't even come on.. sometimes just makes a couple strokes and stops..tap the upper clamp / arm area and it turns on a few more strokes.. in this case... I tend to use a small heater back at the motor to warm it slightly.. couple minutes and she's ready to cut... It's done that since it was new.. just like a old person... don't wanna work in the cold OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said: .. just like a old person... don't wanna work in the cold Who you callin' old! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bill WIlson said: Who you callin' old! .. I wondered who might comment this... I'm old I guess.. because I sure don't wanna work out there in the cold either... at least today and that one day last week... probably tomorow too.. High today was like -4F.. I been out working... but not for very long at a time.. made two clock bases and sanded / finished up two clocks.. Tomorrow supposed to be a lot warmer though.. supposed to get up to zero F so most likely I'll be sawing.. Yesterday was 12F and I worked almost 4 hours sawing a couple clocks and doing some prep work for tomorrows clock cutting.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 You folks are NUTS!. If I can't wear shorts, I'm staying in. John B, Roberta Moreton and kmmcrafts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 I wear shorts but I wear pants over them. OCtoolguy and Dave Monk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran L Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 I feel guilty when I see everyone's temperature issues. Got plenty of space in my basement for scrolling, although I've got 25 years of junk to move around before I can really set it up the way I want. My garage has the same size oil burner as the house does to do larger projects. Problem there is I haven't really done anything out there for a few years so now waiting for my son to service it before I risk turning it on again but he just bought a house with a baby on the way so he's a little busy right now. Keep warm friends. Wind chills only going down to about -10 around Philly. Down right balmy around here compared to some of you. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Temperature doesn't matter for me, workshop is in the basement. Which is good as it was -51C with the windchill this morning when I woke up!!!! The discussion I had with the shop here in town was that they thought the "board" "electronics stuff" should have been replaced, but Dewalt thought differently. It's there now and hopefully it won't be quite as long as the first time around. I also switched the blade clamps back to the originals (which the bearings needed to be replaced) and hope that they might do them (goodwill gesture!!). kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 It would be interesting to know what the final solution to this problem is. I am sorry for your troubles. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I will keep everyone informed. Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of Oz Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 I would try and contact this guy: Roberta Moreton and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 23 hours ago, Wizard of Oz said: I would try and contact this guy: You see that sliding wedge up at the top of the upper arm? It slides against a hardened steel plate and that piece can fall out on reassembly or be in wrong and that would allow the wedge to rattle. I'm just guessing at your noise but knowing they just had your saw apart, it makes sense to me that judging from the sound, it might be that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Hi, Barb, Did they fix your problem yet? Just curious. God Bless! Spirithorse OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted February 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Well, Here is the latest update - DeWalt couldn't figure out what was wrong. Apparently replaced the motor again and the control panel and who knows what else. They shipped a new saw. Got a voice mail today that it arrived. I will be picking up tomorrow. It will be an exciting weekend because I also ordered a new bandsaw (Rikon 10-306) which arrived yesterday and I will be picking up tomorrow as well. I am so excited to get both!!!!! meflick, bobscroll, Roberta Moreton and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 That is awesome.. Two new tools in the same day, LOL Good thing you swapped your stock blade chucks back on the old machine since they're sending you a new saw.. they probably would have kept those with that old saw.. barb.j.enders and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Congratulations! I'm happy for you, for sure. God Bless! Spirithorse OCtoolguy and barb.j.enders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Glad to here you are getting a new saw. Good luck with you two new toys. It always disappointed and amazed when you have a "professional" fix things and they end up not having a clue. Knocking has nothing to do with electronics. It is mechanical and if you know your product should be easy to diagnose. The electronics are another issue. My Hawks electronics has a delayed slow start (soft start) designed into it. I don't notice it now, but initially, when I first got the saw I did. I think most scroll saws have some level of Soft start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffydog Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 15 hours ago, barb.j.enders said: Well, Here is the latest update - DeWalt couldn't figure out what was wrong. Apparently replaced the motor again and the control panel and who knows what else. They shipped a new saw. Got a voice mail today that it arrived. I will be picking up tomorrow. It will be an exciting weekend because I also ordered a new bandsaw (Rikon 10-306) which arrived yesterday and I will be picking up tomorrow as well. I am so excited to get both!!!!! Glad to hear you get a new saw. Disappointing that they can't figure out what is wrong. Enjoy the bandsaw. If my Sears 10" ever croaks, I'm getting that one also. Love the fence on it. Have fun! barb.j.enders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barb.j.enders Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Here are my two new toys. Will have to wait for hubby to help unload. I also now have an extra table for the Dewalt! John B, Scruffydog, OCtoolguy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 That table is nice and flat. Attach sandpaper to it and use it for "flat sanding. Can't think of another use. Maybe a very small boat anchor. barb.j.enders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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