Pressing Problems

[Sycamore67]

 

Sorry about the original post and I missed Ray saying his bit was too short.  He also got a mini chuck which I am certain will help with small bits as they can move in the chuck. 

I cut a block from a 2x4 and as you can see there are prominent growth rings which can make the drill bit wander. These rings can also make doing a compound cut difficult.  When drilling with a small bit, you need to bring it back up often to clear the chips.  The picture shows a 1/16" bit and I drilled a hole through the 1-1/2" block.  

I use a larger drill bit for my compound cuts as the 1/16” bit is short and can easily break and more difficult to thread a blade through.   Even with a longer bit, you still face the issue of wandering and breakage.   I typically use a 3/32” bit which is 2-1/4” long and much easier to grip in a chuck and drill through a block of wood.   Also, easier to insert a saw blade.  Of course the pattern may dictate what size you need.

I have cut a lot of 3D ornaments and making them out of this type of wood is more difficult than others.  There are hard spots and then soft spots can break.  

 

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2019 by Sycamore67
Update

[dgman]

Hey Larry, Ray did reply that after checking, he decided that his bit was not long enough and has ordered longer drill bits.

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, Sycamore67 said:

The entire saga of the 1/16” drill bit in 1-1/2”” wood was entertaining with no pictures of the problem by the poster.

OCTOOLGUY reported that he cannot figure out how to drill all the way through a 1-1/2” square piece of wood with a 1/16” bit. 

“It seems that even if I mounted the bit with as little shank as possible in the chuck, by the time I drilled down into the wood, the jaws of the chuck would contact the wood before the drill bit exited the back side of the wood.” --OCTOOLGUY

I did some checking and still cannot understand the issues as the post describes the quill travel and a block under it and that he cannot find a combination that works.

Here are some things that I found.

1.      Most 1/16” drill bits are 1-7/8” long.

2.      This makes it 3/8” longer that the 1-1/2" block of wood.

3.      OCTOOLGUY says that even with the jaws of the chuck touching the wood he cannot drill through it.  This picture shows a drill chuck with a 1/16” bit 1-7/8” long put into the chuck by ¼”.  This should allow the bit to go through the block by 1/8”

If his bit is not going through the block there are only a couple of things that could be happening. 

·        The bit is chucked too far into the chuck so that less than 1-1/2” is sticking out.

·        The bit is being pushed back into the chuck during drilling.

·        The bit is too short.

 

As long as the jaws of the chuck are touching the wood, there is no issue with quill travel, table height or spacers under the wood block. 

I cut my block from a 2x4 and as you can see there are prominent growth rings which can make the drill bit wander. These rings can also make doing a compound cut difficult.  When drilling with a small bit, you need to bring it back up often to clear the chips.

I drilled a hole through this block with the 1/16" bit and had no problems going through it.  

I use a larger drill bit for my compound cuts as the 1/16” bit is short and can easily break and more difficult to thread a blade through.  I typically use a 3/32” bit which is 2-1/4” long and much easier to grip in a chuck and drill through a block of wood. 

Now…maybe OCTOOLGUY will post what he found.  How long was the drill bit and how far was it sticking out of the chuck before and after you tried to drill the hole. 

 

Yeah I'm not quite sure what the big deal in on this topic.. Ray already said what he found.. and just to clarify.. Not all drill chucks are the same.. because it works for your drill doesn't mean it will for mine and Rays type of drill press... I notice right away that the jaws on your chuck do not stick out as far as the one does on my chuck with a 1/16 bit.. 

Either way... the other thread was locked for a reason and I see no real  reason to re-open the can of worms.. Ray got his question answered so I think we all just need to drop this subject.. before Travis has to kick us all out.. 

[Sycamore67]

I am sorry that I missed his reply.  I will re-look.

[Scruffydog]

Note! This is only a drill... Repeat, this is only a drill...

[jerrye]

5 hours ago, Sycamore67 said:

When drilling with a small bit, you need to bring it back up often to clear the chips.

This is something that I don't remember being said in the other thread, but is important to remember.

EDIT: This is doubly important when the length of the flutes is significantly less than the thickness of material being drilled.

Edited February 4, 2019 by jerrye
Additional info

[NC Scroller]

If you are attempting to use a mini bit (1/16th or smaller) to drill thick material you just can't chuck it up and drill.  These tiny bits will flex, bend and break.  What you need to do is chuck up the bit so 1/4" to 3 /8" sticks out .  Drill until the chuck almost touches the wood.  Then rechuck the bit to full length and finish drilling.  The starter hole you made first will act as a guide to keep the drill bit straight.

[Scruffydog]

So no one got the joke??

Note: This is not a drill.... Repeat...This is not a drill....

Edited February 4, 2019 by Scruffydog

[OCtoolguy]

2 minutes ago, Scruffydog said:

So no one got the joke??

 

I didn't but I do now. Thanks for the levity. Definitely needed.

 

[Sycamore67]

1 hour ago, Scruffydog said:

So no one got the joke??

 

Note: This is not a drill.... Repeat...This is not a drill....

I am sorry that I did not get the joke...why a joke in this thread?

[Wilson142]

2 hours ago, Scruffydog said:

So no one got the joke??

Note: This is not a drill.... Repeat...This is not a drill....

I got the joke. In fact, I have a t-shirt that has the hammer and says, "this is not a drill"...I have another that has the picture of a drill that says, "Relax folks, this is just a drill" 

[OCtoolguy]

The only thing required is a sense of humor.