Outdoor projects

[DAdams]

I'm having some troubles with outdoor projects  that I  have cut ,the paints and the varnish is not staying  healthy after leaving them outdoor  exposed to the weather and the sun light.I had been coating them with  outdoor Varish but it just doesn't hold up in Iowa weather. Any ideas what I  could use to protect the painted  areas?

[teachnlearn]

Paint needs something to grip. Rough your project a bit with sandpaper. Use a primer rated for outdoors and check the paint is good for exterior. Pretty much the same steps as painting a house which lasts for years. RJF

[OCtoolguy]

13 minutes ago, teachnlearn said:

Paint needs something to grip. Rough your project a bit with sandpaper. Use a primer rated for outdoors and check the paint is good for exterior. Pretty much the same steps as painting a house which lasts for years. RJF

My wife and I were just having this conversation as we took our walk around the park. We have a white vinyl fence that got splashed with tar a few years ago when they resurfaced our streets. I tried different things to get rid of the tar and all I managed to do was smear it around and make a bad situation worse. So, we were talking about the possibility of painting our fence and I told her that if I was to hit with a sander so the paint would have something to adhere to, it might work. I'm going to do some homework on the subject.

 

[teachnlearn]

1 minute ago, octoolguy said:

My wife and I were just having this conversation as we took our walk around the park. We have a white vinyl fence that got splashed with tar a few years ago when they resurfaced our streets. I tried different things to get rid of the tar and all I managed to do was smear it around and make a bad situation worse. So, we were talking about the possibility of painting our fence and I told her that if I was to hit with a sander so the paint would have something to adhere to, it might work. I'm going to do some homework on the subject.

Check on paint possible for vinyl. Krylon makes paint for plastic, so that or a variation should work. Somewhere in my brain I remember an article for painting vinyl siding. RJF

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[OCtoolguy]

1 minute ago, teachnlearn said:

 

I just found a website that tells exactly to do it. They recommend using an epoxy based paint a good primer beforehand. Then a sealer. Sounds like a job for someone else. I would rather scroll.

 

[teachnlearn]

1 minute ago, octoolguy said:

I just found a website that tells exactly to do it. They recommend using an epoxy based paint a good primer beforehand. Then a sealer. Sounds like a job for someone else. I would rather scroll.

 

Maybe done with a sprayer and plastic backing. RJ

[Karl S]

If you want a clear coat finish Go to Sherwin Williams and ask for a gallon of clear base. This is the base finish paint WITHOUT the color added. It looks milky before it dries but it will dry clear and last a long time outdoors. Try it you might really like it for your project.

 

[new2woodwrk]

2 hours ago, octoolguy said:

My wife and I were just having this conversation as we took our walk around the park. We have a white vinyl fence that got splashed with tar a few years ago when they resurfaced our streets. I tried different things to get rid of the tar and all I managed to do was smear it around and make a bad situation worse. So, we were talking about the possibility of painting our fence and I told her that if I was to hit with a sander so the paint would have something to adhere to, it might work. I'm going to do some homework on the subject.

 

There is actually a paint made for Vinyl (I used to work in a paint store) - might want to go to Sherwin/'Williams and talk to them about it

[new2woodwrk]

3 hours ago, DAdams said:

I'm having some troubles with outdoor projects  that I  have cut ,the paints and the varnish is not staying  healthy after leaving them outdoor  exposed to the weather and the sun light.I had been coating them with  outdoor Varish but it just doesn't hold up in Iowa weather. Any ideas what I  could use to protect the painted  areas?

Sherwin Williams has paint that will work with no issues (I used to work at a paint store).

Just tell them your situation and they should have a recommendation.

Base paint is fine - there are several base types so depending on the color you want, you must have the correct base.

In addition, I recommend add the Moldicide to the paint - it really helps maintain the paint and provides fungicidal protection:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/M-1-7-5-oz-Advanced-Mildewcide-AM7-5/100114931

Hope that helps

[Dave Monk]

I made this a couple years ago. I used synthetic decking material. This is the color it came in. It is available in a couple of colors in 1 x 12s.  I used no finish on it.  The backer is the same material. Used waterproof glue to glue it together. Just giving an idea.

[aj43]

You might also consider outdoor sign paint. It's made to survive the outdoors and weather. Can get it in small quart amounts. 

[JustLarry]

23 hours ago, Karl S said:

If you want a clear coat finish Go to Sherwin Williams and ask for a gallon of clear base. This is the base finish paint WITHOUT the color added. It looks milky before it dries but it will dry clear and last a long time outdoors. Try it you might really like it for your project.

 

Here is link to article from Patriotic Woodworker site on using clear base for an exterior finish. 

https://thepatriotwoodworker.com/forums/topic/24280-tgif-paint-on-a-clear-finish/?tab=comments#comment-176189

Larry

 

[tomsteve]

acrylic paints and an acrylic clear such as the sherwin williams A100 non tinted or general finishes exterior 450.

coat all 6 sides of the sign.

Edited April 7, 2019 by tomsteve

[DAdams]

Thank you all for your suggestions.I will read through them and try to figure out what I want to try.Just wish it would quit Raining here.So I could try some of the ideas you all sent to.me

[teachnlearn]

When considering anything outdoor recognize that the sun gives off UV. It fades carpets, fades car vinyl and plastic and dried it out till it cracks. Most things outdoors have some problem with UV. Grabbing a clear coat will keep mold and rain off of projects, but it the coating doesn't have the additives in it to take care of UV, its going to go right through and age the project. When looking at outdoor paints and sealers almost all will have additives for UV or the coating is in trouble when the sun hits it. RJF

[Brokentone]

I have made some outdoor signs, which I cut in trex. It is not severely affected by weather, need to cut slow so it does not glue itself behind the blade.

Bob

[Rockytime]

What is trex?

[Brokentone]

Les

Trex is a deck material that is 3/4" thick and about 6" wide, it is made from recycled water bottles. It cuts nicely but slowly the dust is more like tiny pellets. I replaced the treated wood deck that fell apart in 5 years with Trex and after 5 years it looks like it was put down yesterday.

Bob

[OCtoolguy]

6 hours ago, Brokentone said:

Les

Trex is a deck material that is 3/4" thick and about 6" wide, it is made from recycled water bottles. It cuts nicely but slowly the dust is more like tiny pellets. I replaced the treated wood deck that fell apart in 5 years with Trex and after 5 years it looks like it was put down yesterday.

Bob

We have a Trex front deck/porch too. It will last forever but I'm disappointed that it has faded and doesn't look as good as it did when new. It's going on 9 years old but it faded after about 3 years. It doesn't get much direct sun at all. I'm mot sure if there is any way to renew it. Great product though.

 

[Rockytime]

Ahh thanks. I had no idea what the stuff was called.