Rockytime Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 You young whipper snappers won't know what that means. I had ordered the Stewmac router base hoping I could use it like a plunge router for drilling patterns. Not exactly one of my brighter moves. No way it will work that way. I became so depressed I swept my huge (112 sq ft) shop and then vacuumed up around my saw. I was so exhausted I had to sit down. While pondering my dilemma I had an epiphany. It came after a lot of soul searching. I realized I had the perfect elements for the perfect drilling machine. This winter I will create it. The base and upper part are perfect. I will just machine longer slide rods and re-bore the top slide with Delrin inserts. I feel so much better now. The Stewmac is beautifully made. It should work out just fine. kmmcrafts, davidg, lawson56 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 I got really mad and then depressed yesterday while drilling holes for a puzzle order I was making I noticed the Dremel plunge router base was getting really sloppy and loose.. Thinking about how I disagreed with JT about the plastic plunge router being more accurate than he was giving it credit for.. While drilling a couple more holes later I noticed one of the screws for the uprights turning on it's own... shut it down.. went to the tool box for a screw driver and tighten the screws up.. goes pretty straight up and down now.. I do see where this set up isn't going to stay super accurate for very long... and really it's not as accurate as i first thought but it is doable... and it taught me that I like the little systems of this style / design without spending a good fortune on one not really knowing what to expect.. Don't think it'd be all that hard to build a nice accurate set up similar out of steel.. Be a lot less time consuming to just buy the plunge router from the same place you bought this.. $150 seems steep.. and it's still not make to be used as a drill press.. but I'm almost certain that it'd last much longer than the plastic $30 Dremel one too.. OCtoolguy and lawson56 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) Les take the two top rods off and turn them upside down. Spin those thumbscrews all the way down so not in the way. Put the spring between the thumb nuts and the top plate. As I mentioned in my last post on this. That main spring is fairly stiff. If you go to Home Depot or lowes and go through those bin drawers you may find a lighter spring. If you do and buy 2 of them it will balance the travel evenly and will not bind. You can also try that bottom spring because it is not as stiff. But maybe a little too short. I did not try that. As I said some tweaking and you can make work if you want to drill with it. You could take the 2 springs off that plastic gem and try those. Edited May 4, 2019 by JTTHECLOCKMAN OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 7 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: While drilling a couple more holes later I noticed one of the screws for the uprights turning on it's own... shut it down.. went to the tool box for a screw driver and tighten the screws up.. goes pretty straight up and down now.. Kevin which screw? I know I don't do the volumn you do, but ... so far it works fine for me I did take off that depth ruler thing and just set the drill depth knurl knob stop I wish the dremel/wen had an LED light on it though OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 3 hours ago, JimErn said: Kevin which screw? I know I don't do the volumn you do, but ... so far it works fine for me I did take off that depth ruler thing and just set the drill depth knurl knob stop I wish the dremel/wen had an LED light on it though The two screws that hold the upper portion to the lower portion.. they are right on top on either side of where the WEN sits.. Probably not enough tension on the springs but if the screws came all the way out the springs might go flying into space, never to be return.. Mine came loose and made the whole plunge portion very wobbly.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 I would think adding a light source would be easy. Here is an example of something to get you thinking in right direction. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Light-It-6-in-Silver-Flexible-Neck-LED-Clip-On-Battery-Operated-Multiplex-Task-Light-20010-301/204205348?cm_mmc=Shopping|B|Base|D27L|Multi|NA|PLA|InteriorLighting|71700000038718431|58700004243614128|92700035280812228&msclkid=126be7e9cb12189bab73bb247705ef3a&gclid=CLaoq6OkguICFYG4swod2XoCAg&gclsrc=ds OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScollSaw Slasher Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Keep talking guys. Got that dremel plastic one sitting on my bench waiting to put together. Have had too many honey-dos to even set the dremel into it for a test run. Got to get my priorities straight now that my back is good enough to start scrolling again. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Les, I know exactly what is meant by "which twin has the tony?". I'm old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 I'm old, but i never kept track of women's hair do's!! just saying,,,,,, OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted May 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 So you do know what it means you sly old fox! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 the wonders of the internet search... OCtoolguy and Rockytime 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) JT I have a shop desk top light I use, I was wanting one housed in the dremel body lighting the drill bit, much like my router has two LED shining down to light the work Edited May 5, 2019 by JimErn OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) Interesting discussion. I have never heard that expression, I did look it up, but it still does not ring a bell. Maybe because I am only 71 Edited May 5, 2019 by Rolf OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, JimErn said: JT I have a shop desk top light I use, I was wanting one housed in the dremel body lighting the drill bit, much like my router has two LED shining down to light the work I know what you are looking for. I have this router base system for a colt router that I use for precise routing and inlay work. They use to offer a small pen light attachment for a light source but they discontinued making it as it is stated in his write up so they went to a light ring attachment. I do not have this and it is pricy but these accessories are for a highend tool. The idea can be the same weather a small pen light used or a light ring of some sort. With those cheap bases you are better get a small single cell pen light and tape it to the base in some way. https://microfence.com/product/light-ring-kits/ Examples (think outside the box) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mini-Pen-type-Flashlight-Portable-LED-3W-AAA-Battery-Torch-Lamp/656835749?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=14170&adid=22222222222107490132&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=75110454869959&wl4=pla-4578710025148308:aud-807615483&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=& wl10=Walmart&wl12=656835749_10000014596&wl14=single battery small LED pen light&veh=sem&msclkid=a170bac97e4f1a5e0b38e606664e7f2a https://www.amazon.com/Hatori-Flashlight-Battery-Powered-Emergency-Flashlights/dp/B01M24XPD6 https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=single+led+light+battery Edited May 5, 2019 by JTTHECLOCKMAN OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Rolf said: Interesting discussion. I have never heard that expression, I did look it up, but it still does not ring a bell. Maybe because I am only 71 Toni was a home hair care product sold in the 1960’s. The quote was from a commercial that showed a set of twins. One had her hair professionally done and the other done at home with Toni products, thus the question :” Which twin has the Toni?”. yes, I remember! Edited May 5, 2019 by dgman OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, dgman said: Toni was a home hair care product sold in the 1060’s. The quote was from a commercial that showed a set of twins. One had her hair professionally done and the other done at home with Toni products, thus the question :” Which twin has the Toni?”. yes, I remember! Really? In the 1060's? I recall that commercial but I'm not that old. I'm only 76. Scrappile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, octoolguy said: Really? In the 1060's? I recall that commercial but I'm not that old. I'm only 76. Hummmm, so old you forgot you math. I calculate you to be over 959 years old to have seen it in the 1060's!!! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, octoolguy said: Really? In the 1060's? I recall that commercial but I'm not that old. I'm only 76. Ops, forgot to proof read! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, dgman said: Ops, forgot to proof read! Yep i always forget to proof read. that is why if you look at most of my posts there is "last edited" date..... OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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