JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 There is no way you can keep spray adhesive off the edges and fret work. The thing you may get away with if the glue dries clear but I would never spray the back of fret work. Each method will take some practice for sure. Need to use the right adhesive too. I know when I use that 3M super 77 spray adhesive for attaching felt to some projects it is totally messy and I have to tape off edges because you are not getting it off unwanted spots. Not pushing my method at all and could care less if no one uses it but to give you an idea to the theory behind it, when dabbing with a sponge and sparse amount of glue it forms air pockets on the surface. This allows the excess glue some place to flow to when squeezed down flat. Any excess is so small it does not matter on edges. If you lay the piece in a layer of glue there is no air pockets and it is basically a sheet of thin glue and that glue needs to flow somewhere. But as I said each method needs practice and you probably make due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianr24 Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: There is no way you can keep spray adhesive off the edges and fret work. The thing you may get away with if the glue dries clear but I would never spray the back of fret work. Each method will take some practice for sure. Need to use the right adhesive too. I know when I use that 3M super 77 spray adhesive for attaching felt to some projects it is totally messy and I have to tape off edges because you are not getting it off unwanted spots. Not pushing my method at all and could care less if no one uses it but to give you an idea to the theory behind it, when dabbing with a sponge and sparse amount of glue it forms air pockets on the surface. This allows the excess glue some place to flow to when squeezed down flat. Any excess is so small it does not matter on edges. If you lay the piece in a layer of glue there is no air pockets and it is basically a sheet of thin glue and that glue needs to flow somewhere. But as I said each method needs practice and you probably make due. Yeah I was thinking that also . Not about the air space which is a good point but I think I would have more control with sponge rather than dipping the whole project in glue. I’ll give it a try sometime. Thx OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Same reason I use a trash bag over wax paper JT.. The bags I use have a texture to them so the glue does get some air pockets etc.. but also like I mentioned.. you gotta spread the glue out thin or you'll get squeeze out.. I also use the clear formula of Titebond glue.. and use a tooth pick to kinda scrap away any squeeze out I can before it dries.. after the first couple getting squeeze out you sorta get a feel for how much glue you need.. Everyone is going to have their own personal way of doing it.. I also like JT's way of doing this and may also try that.. still have a hard time with the sprays though... as JT said and I also say.. sprays are going to land on areas you may not want them to.. and no way around that short of masking them all off.. and that is way too much masking.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 Wow lots of great ideas even I'm learning. OCtoolguy and barb.j.enders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 I use this stuff - works great on small and large pieces alike https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CB3BZBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, new2woodwrk said: I use this stuff - works great on small and large pieces alike https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CB3BZBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Somebody on another thread here also mentioned E6000. I checked it out at our local crafts store but haven't bought any as of yet. Now, I think I'll buy a tube and keep it on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, new2woodwrk said: I use this stuff - works great on small and large pieces alike https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CB3BZBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Wow I used that stuff on this piece and was embarrassed. Over time (about 2 years) that stuff became brittle and the brass pieces fell off the cross as I was showing a potential customer. I swore I would never use that again. It may work on various other materials but be aware on metals to wood. I have switched to epoxy which will stay flexible somewhat and when gluing a movable material as wood is to an immovable such as metal you need something that will not turn brittle. new2woodwrk, kmmcrafts and Phantom Scroller 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 9 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: Wow I used that stuff on this piece and was embarrassed. Over time (about 2 years) that stuff became brittle and the brass pieces fell off the cross as I was showing a potential customer. I swore I would never use that again. It may work on various other materials but be aware on metals to wood. I have switched to epoxy which will stay flexible somewhat and when gluing a movable material as wood is to an immovable such as metal you need something that will not turn brittle. Beautiful work JT!.. JTTHECLOCKMAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: Beautiful work JT!.. Thanks. Red Heart, and red oak, with bright brass overlays and red stain glass in the frets of the steps. Made 2 and sold them but took a couple years because of the price I guess. Dirk Boelman pattern. I loved his work. kmmcrafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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