FDUR vs Pegas blades

[jerry1939]

I only use FDUR #5 & 3s.  Starting to run low on #5s.  Some of you have been singing praises of Pegas blades.  Questions for those of you that switched;

1.  What Pegas blade do you consider comparable to the FDUR #5?
2.  Which do you prefer & why?
3.  Where do you like to buy your Pegas blades from?

Thanks in advance.

jerry

[trackman]

I like the MG#5. Cuts faster and stays sharp longer.  I think I got last batch from D&D. 

[kmmcrafts]

Jerry, My go to blades before the Pegas was the FDUR #3 & 5 much like you.. I bought sample packs of each size and style of Pegas blades.. I found I like the Pegas Modified Geometry #3 and #5.. They are quite a bit more aggressive blades.. They have a much thinner kerf than the FDUR blades.. however.. the #5 requires a larger drill bit than a #5 FDUR so keep that in mind.. They also cut straight onto the blade rather than the few degrees to the right like the FDUR..  I will sometimes switch back and fourth between the two.. but find I use the Pegas most of the time.. 

I've ordered them from Bearwood, DnD, and Lesley's Patterns.. I like DnD best.. they are far faster in getting the blades out and customer service has always been top notch... Have bought Pegas blade clamps from QTE and they are also great to deal with.. though I've never ordered blades from them.. have read others having great success with them.. Believe Bushton MFG also sells them.. Have not bought blades from them either.. I originally bought my sample packs from Lesley's patterns as they have samples in each category and you get a package with each size blades in that blade type category.. But I believe the most popular used blade is the MG blade.. 

 

 

 

[OCtoolguy]

I use the MG in #5 mostly. I bought from DnD and also Qtena as they are only an hour from me so I get 2 day service.

 

[dgman]

Jerry, I use mostly FDUR blades. I tried the Pegas MG blades and did not find them any better than FDUR blades. I didn’t feel it was worth changing over to a different brand. I’m sticking with Flying Dutchman Ultra reverse blades.

One advantage of the UR blade is the reverse teeth run every third tooth as opposed to the last few teeth on the Pegas blades. You don’t have to work at positioning the blade to take advantage of the reverse teeth.

[orangeman]

3 hours ago, jerry1939 said:

I only use FDUR #5 & 3s.  Starting to run low on #5s.  Some of you have been singing praises of Pegas blades.  Questions for those of you that switched;

1.  What Pegas blade do you consider comparable to the FDUR #5?
2.  Which do you prefer & why?
3.  Where do you like to buy your Pegas blades from?

Thanks in advance.

jerry

1. None of the FD blades equivalent to Pegas in my opinion.

2. Switched to Pegas 5 years ago. My favorite is the #5 RT Modified Geometry blade. Will use #3 for fine work on 3/4" hardwoods.

3. I buy from D&D - PA.

4. However, I only cut 3/4" hardwoods.

bb

[Rockytime]

I've been scrolling for a little less than three years. The first time I tried the MG blades they cut so fast they scared me. However, getting a little more experience my mostly used blades are #1 and 3 MG . Most of my cutting is 1/2"  stock and 1/8" and 1/4" plywood.. I have a lot blades I will never use. Occasionally I use #5 or #7 when cutting 3/4" Pine.

[scrollingforsanity]

I use mostly the #3 and #5 MG blades. they cut well, last a long time. I also use FD #1 Silver reverse blade. I get my MD blades from qtena,com and DnD. Qtena is fast delivery and good prices. good people to work with. So are DnD. Get my FD blades from The wooden Teddy Bear.

grizz 

[JimErn]

I'm a new scroller too, going on 4 years.  I started with FD an like them, as a lark, mostly cause of comments here I tried PMG

PMG is all I use now, #3 & #5.

They cut straighter, and last longer, I buy from D&D after checking prices, they seem (so far) to the cheapest.

[kmmcrafts]

I would sometimes burn the edges of Cherry when cutting sharp corners etc with the FDUR blades.. I find the Pegas I don't do this.. I also find they are much easier to do those sharp corners like grass etc .. when using FD blades I used to cut out beyond the point and then cut back down to the pointed area and cut from there to prevent the burning on the grass tips.. the Pegas.. no more need for that..  

[scrollerpete]

MG 3 & 5 are my goto blades now I find them better than FDUR and D&D is the place to buy them from, great service and friendly staff.

[Sycamore67]

It all depends on what you are cutting.  In reality, the tooth design of the FD UR versus the PMG  are different.  The Pegas looks like a reverse blade and more like the FD Reverse blade.  The most aggressive blade I have used is the PS Super Sharps.  For thin plywood or wood, the FD UR  gives me the best splinter free cut.

[redwine]

My go to blade has always been the FDUR blades since they first came on the market and the reason was the straight tracking of the blade even though the #5 blade for what ever reason always tracked to the left a lot more than the other #s. I cut all thickness's with the UR but with 3/4 inch they take more time even though I go to the #7 or #9. When I cut the thick wood I switch to the pegas MG blade for the quicker cut and the sawdust and chips are cleared out of the kerf much faster. For compound cuts Pegas MG blades is the only way to go!

Erv

[kmmcrafts]

17 minutes ago, redwine said:

My go to blade has always been the FDUR blades since they first came on the market and the reason was the straight tracking of the blade even though the #5 blade for what ever reason always tracked to the left a lot more than the other #s. I cut all thickness's with the UR but with 3/4 inch they take more time even though I go to the #7 or #9. When I cut the thick wood I switch to the pegas MG blade for the quicker cut and the sawdust and chips are cleared out of the kerf much faster. For compound cuts Pegas MG blades is the only way to go!

Erv

Going to a bigger blade number doesn't always mean getting a faster cut.. The bigger blade is also a wider kerf thus removing more material.. Many times in cutting thicker wood.. going with a #3 blade will actually cut faster than a #7.. Just be careful because the thinner blade will flex more too.. so you can't push it through too hard..

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, Sycamore67 said:

It all depends on what you are cutting.  In reality, the tooth design of the FD UR versus the PMG  are different.  The Pegas looks like a reverse blade and more like the FD Reverse blade.  The most aggressive blade I have used is the PS Super Sharps.  For thin plywood or wood, the FD UR  gives me the best splinter free cut.

You're right.. which is why I never used a reverse tooth blade because they cut way too slow.. and why I always liked the FDUR blades because they were more aggressive.. The Pegas is a reverse tooth blade that cuts better than any other blade I've ever used... Never have tried the super sharps.. been wanting to give them a try... but boy that price is also hard to swallow too.. and they'd have to last a whole bunch longer and cut a whole bunch faster for them to be worth the extra cost for me.. I'm going to give them a try sometime soon.. Maybe I'll eat those words once I try them.. They sure are pricey though.. I try not to be too opinionated on something I haven't tried.. but sometimes those price tags make me be opinionated LOL    

[don in brooklin on]

I am a die hard FD-UR user.  I tried the Pegas Modified Geometric and found that they were very aggressive and had issues with tight turns.  I am sure it is just getting used to.

I also like the finish I get with the UR as I never have to sand the inside cuts.  The Pegas was rougher.

I get my FD from Mikes.  Being in Canada you would think it would be cheaper to order from Bear Woods but the shipping is higher and I have to pay tax.  

Last time I ordered (gross) the cost from Mikes was $4 CDN per dozen including shipping and conversion.  From Bear woods the cost is over $6.50 per dozen

Needless to say the cheapy in me rules.

I am a big believer that it is the bladed that you get used to is your best blade.  At our club most guys use Olsen as one member buys in bulk and resells them.

[OCtoolguy]

1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said:

You're right.. which is why I never used a reverse tooth blade because they cut way too slow.. and why I always liked the FDUR blades because they were more aggressive.. The Pegas is a reverse tooth blade that cuts better than any other blade I've ever used... Never have tried the super sharps.. been wanting to give them a try... but boy that price is also hard to swallow too.. and they'd have to last a whole bunch longer and cut a whole bunch faster for them to be worth the extra cost for me.. I'm going to give them a try sometime soon.. Maybe I'll eat those words once I try them.. They sure are pricey though.. I try not to be too opinionated on something I haven't tried.. but sometimes those price tags make me be opinionated LOL    

Kevin, I too wanted to try the Super Sharp blades but the price was just too much. When I bought my EX it came with a bunch of them in sizes 5-7-9. About 8 dozen in all. I tried a number 7 on a compound cutting and I didn't find it any better than the MG 5 that I had been using. I would have to be production cutting thick material before I'd spend the money on them. JMHO!

 

[SCROLLSAW703]

I ain't able to say as I ever had the opportunity to use Pegas blades. I started usin FD & Olson blades since I started scrollin 20+ years ago.

I keep several blade sizes & types on inventory in my shop due to the various types of projects I get involved with. The main sizes of blades I use are #0 - #5. As a rule, skip tooth blades. I don't have much use for the Ultra Reverse blades in my experience. The few degrees difference in the blades really doesn't make much difference once you're used to usin' those particular type of blades, imo.

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, SCROLLSAW703 said:

I ain't able to say as I ever had the opportunity to use Pegas blades. I started usin FD & Olson blades since I started scrollin 20+ years ago.

I keep several blade sizes & types on inventory in my shop due to the various types of projects I get involved with. The main sizes of blades I use are #0 - #5. As a rule, skip tooth blades. I don't have much use for the Ultra Reverse blades in my experience. The few degrees difference in the blades really doesn't make much difference once you're used to usin' those particular type of blades, imo.

I agree Brad.. I've used a wide variety of blades and also started out using Olsen blades.. I do like to be versatile with blades and I still use some Olsen blades and FD blades.. but I gotta say.. I always gravitate back to those Pegas MG blades.. I've tried many different styles configurations and most all the sizes of most every brand blade out there and I have favorites in most all those brands.. 

The best blades I use and get the best results from For Me.. is the faster more aggressive cutting blades... I tend to mess up more pieces from a slower cutting blade because I tend to get impatient and start pushing too much which in turn makes the blade flex and give me a poor cut.. 

Good to see you posting, Hope all is going as good as it can be for you. 

  

[Rockytime]

I used #2/0 Pegas MG for the first time today. I'm cutting two thickness of 3/16" Luan. Holy smokes it's aggressive. I'm only running about 1/4 throttle so it does not run off on me. Sure can take the tight turns nice.

[kmmcrafts]

20 minutes ago, Rockytime said:

I used #2/0 Pegas MG for the first time today. I'm cutting two thickness of 3/16" Luan. Holy smokes it's aggressive. I'm only running about 1/4 throttle so it does not run off on me. Sure can take the tight turns nice.

Those smaller blades can really chew through some material pretty quick.. I rarely use anything smaller than a #3.. once is a great while I do use a #1.. I've used those #2/0 from time to time as well but I gotta say.. it's been a real long time.. If you think those are fast.. give a Flying Dutchman Superior Puzzle blade a try LOL..

Now that said.. in a spiral blade.. I rarely use anything larger than a #1 and usually use a #2/0 

 

[jerry1939]

I can't begin to Thank all of you for sharing your wisdom.  Awesome bunch of helpers.  (Possibly against my better judgement), I will order Pegas MG 5s, although I thought long about the posting from Don In Brooklin, "The blade you get used to is your best blade".

I won't get at trying them for a week or more.

Thanks again everyone !!  

jerry

[Karl S]

I got some a couple of weeks ago but I have not been able to get to the shop to try them the back says forget about it right now, Getting old really sucks for sure!

 

[Roberta Moreton]

I don’t like Pegas blades, I don’t like how they cut, I don’t like how easy they break. I use Flying Dutchman and/or Sharktooth. 

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, Roberta Moreton said:

I don’t like Pegas blades, I don’t like how they cut, I don’t like how easy they break. I use Flying Dutchman and/or Sharktooth. 

Pretty sure the Sharktooth saw blades are the same as FD? Are you using the spirals or flat blades? The spirals are a little finicky for tension and do break easily..

 

Edited June 15, 2019 by kmmcrafts