Cllishof Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Of course price is object but I keep searching and all I get to come up is Dewalt ads. Looking at 22 inch jet but just curious everyone’s thoughts. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 Well I think the Hegner is the best, but I may be prejudice. If I was to purchase a new saw right now I'd be ordering a Pegas, 21". OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post teachnlearn Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) If price was no object I would like a scroll saw that folds small for storage, automatically puts in the blades I request by voice. Warns me when I'm about to make a mistake, is dead silent, has a beer tap and sings a few hallelujahs when I complete a project. RJF Edited June 23, 2019 by teachnlearn barb.j.enders, Scrappile, stoney and 7 others 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Lots of choices out there. Most are good saws. Look at the Jet. Look at the Seyco saw. Look at the Pegas brand. Look at the King Brand or look for an Excalibur. All of the aforementioned are some sort of reincarnation of the original Excalibur Scroll Saw. Look at the Hawks and the Hegners. Then when you see one that appeals to you, ask questions on it specifically and those who use it, or have used it, will give you an honest assessment from their personal usage. What one person likes or wants in a Saw, is not what someone else wants or likes. But, there are plenty to choose from, especially if price is no object. You just have to decide which is right for you. Jim Finn, GrampaJim and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) A lot depends on what you are cutting. If you do a lot of fret work you might like one saw but if you are cutting thicker wood for puzzles or Intarsia you might like another. If longevity and parts availability, I would choose the Hegner. There are a lot of people with 20 year old Hegners and nothing has worn out. Edited June 24, 2019 by Sycamore67 Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 If price is no subject.. Buy all of them and then weed out the ones you don't like, .. That is somewhat what I have done over the past 20 years.. Only bought 3 new saws in my 20 years of scroll sawing.. two of which went right back to the store once i un-boxed them and turn them on.. they vibrated across the floor, LOL great saw if you need cardio exercise chasing the saw.. the heck with a gym membership.. just go out and chase the saw for a while, Over those years of sawing and trying all the saws I've had and voicing my opinion on what the best saw is and listening to others say their saw is best.. I've found that 1) everyone does different types of projects and cuts different materials or thickness of materials etc.. 2) Some like cutting slow and like to use dull blades 3) some like to cut fast 4) Some people are insane and use those round blades for everything they cut.. 5) This list could go on and on.. so because there are soo many different types of projects to make on a scroll saw.. then you have all the different types of scroll saws.. not to mention a wide variety of blades.. then the goofball that sits behind the saw either wants the thing to cut faster or whoa... this things way to fast and they're turning the saw speed way down.. What one person looks for in a saw is different than the next person.. So in reality if money isn't an issue.. really.. buy every saw you can find.. then buy every brand and style of blade.. play around and find what works for you... as everyone is different.. I've used about every brand saw out there except Hegner.. ( That's next on my list though.. ) But if you come to my shop and see three Hawks setting there.. well you'd probably be right in thinking they are my favorite saw I've used so far.. Oh.. never used the Jet brand yet either.. Have used several Deltas. Ryobi, DeWalt, Excalibur, Dremels, Hitachi, Craftsman, and several other saws I'm probably forgetting Rolf, OCtoolguy and Eugene Downes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Who uses a metal stand and who builds their stand. Do you put casters on it? Looking at two car garages and extra property. Start in the garage and eventually build a small shop. Will be designing a research/ workshop. Considering building cabinets and putting them on locking wheels 3 to 5 inch. Considering moving to clean and shift either to wall or rearrange. Since my back is not good, considering wheels on each. Scroll saw isn't the top of weight comparing other shop equipment. Anyone used or using locked casters and find a problem or would never use casters and stay with a set stand underneath the scroll saw? Have a craftsman contractors scroll saw so I will use that for a while, but it doen't have a stand. RJF OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 I have wheels under my Hawk and it works just fine. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, teachnlearn said: Who uses a metal stand and who builds their stand. Do you put casters on it? . . . RJF All of my scroll saws have always been on manufacturer’s metal stands and we have always added locking wheels to increase flexibility and ability to move equipment around as needed. Pretty much almost every piece of equipment we have in the shop is on wheels. Some are on stands/cabinets with wheels that hubby made. The planet and the jointer I believe are on one of those stands which you “flip” depending upon which piece of equipment you need to use. We have never had any issues with the wheels on there and locked as needed. Edited June 24, 2019 by meflick teachnlearn and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Rockytime said: I have wheels under my Hawk and it works just fine. Wondered about vibration, shifting during work. I'm not seeing it here so I will plan it into the shop. Thank you. Have an enclosed cargo trailer that I'm planing on using for an offsite shop. From the same feedback, I'm going to use wheel on stands and anchor machines to etrack. When we have time off, I'm planning on making bed, cabinets, sinks on wheel and do an instant conversion to an RV. Planning on toilet/ shower installed permanently to front for shop use and RV use. If I need empty cargo space for moving, I can pull the units. RJF Edited June 24, 2019 by teachnlearn OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Deleted. Edited June 24, 2019 by octoolguy Topic went off the OP's original question. Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Cllishof said: Of course price is object but I keep searching and all I get to come up is Dewalt ads. Looking at 22 inch jet but just curious everyone’s thoughts. Boy this topic sure changed the subject in a hurry.. went from you asking about the Jet saw to stands with wheels, LOL We tend to do this quite often on here.. so hopefully you'll stick around.. eventually someone comes along and gets things back on topic, LOL New or used Jet? I ask because if your going to spend the money on a NEW Jet.. I'd put the money towards a Pegas rather than the Jet.. Jet is a good saw.. but there are some that don't care for the blade clamp design.. Also heard complaints of the table being mounted too high in relation to the blade clamping mechanisms and that the reverse tooth blades are useless on these saws because of that.. I don't have any experience using a Jet saw so i really cannot comment too much.. I have checked them out in person at a store showroom.. I think the clamping design would be quite neat to use for lots of inside cuts.. I like the concept on the clamps.. and all in all I think it's as good a saw as the other saws built similar to it such as the Excalibur, King, Pegas, Seyco Etc etc. They are basically the same mechanics with slight little changes such as blade clamps table sizes etc etc.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrye Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said: New or used Jet? I ask because if your going to spend the money on a NEW Jet.. I'd put the money towards a Pegas rather than the Jet.. Jet is a good saw.. but there are some that don't care for the blade clamp design.. Also heard complaints of the table being mounted too high in relation to the blade clamping mechanisms and that the reverse tooth blades are useless on these saws because of that.. I don't have any experience using a Jet saw so i really cannot comment too much.. I have checked them out in person at a store showroom.. I think the clamping design would be quite neat to use for lots of inside cuts.. I like the concept on the clamps.. and all in all I think it's as good a saw as the other saws built similar to it such as the Excalibur, King, Pegas, Seyco Etc etc. They are basically the same mechanics with slight little changes such as blade clamps table sizes etc etc.. I have the Jet. Agree with Kevin here. I replaced the factory clamping setup with Pegas clamps, which fixes all of the inherent shortcomings of the Jet clamps, making a good saw great. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 I think the highest complaint that comes up is the blade clamp. Would think the manufactures to take it to heart, design and heavily test them. Somebody is not reading their feedback. RJF OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cllishof Posted June 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 i went with hegner 22 inch thanks for all your guys help! meflick, Jim Finn and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Sounds like an excellent choice. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Hegner is a bullet proof saw and by ordering a new one it will have all the bells and whistles. It will last you a lifetime. If I ever run across a good deal on a used one again, I'll have a 3rd saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cllishof Posted June 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Can’t wait to get it! I have never been behind. Hegner! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poupster2 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 After looking at all the choices out there, The saw that I would choose to buy brand new would be a Seyco! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 I was lucky in finding a good used Hegner for $300. I few upgrades and it run flawlessly for me. I probably will never wear out my Hegner. If I was looking for a new saw, I would want to go somewhere and actually try ones was interested in buying. I would start with the Pegasus and maybe Seyco. But, I wish they had more history behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Somebody going to rig a cargo trailer and put all the scroll saws in it. Then they can travel the country and everyone can try out the different scroll saws. RJF meflick and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/24/2019 at 5:20 PM, Cllishof said: i went with hegner 22 inch thanks for all your guys help! Congrats on the new saw. Well I have had the same saw for 11 years and so far all I have had to replace is blades. LOL Knock on wood! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, stoney said: Congrats on the new saw. Well I have had the same saw for 11 years and so far all I have had to replace is blades. LOL Knock on wood! Since you work with wood; Do you have a specific knock on wood sign, specific piece of wood or do you grab any old piece to knock on? RJF stoney and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 I have been a huge supporter of Hawk since I purchased my G4 26 back in 2005. Don't get me wrong I would not give up my Hawk. I think at this point if I were to buy a brand new saw I would buy the Pegas over all of the other brands using this arm design for the following reasons. 1. I like the tilting Arm, great for doing inlays. 2. Pegas has the best clamps on this type of saw. I have always disliked the clamps on the Dewalts, and all of the EX's. 3. You need no additional gimmicks to hold the upper arm up for top feeding. I am not discounting the Hawks they are still a great saw, but I am not sure what the owners focus is. It takes too long to get one,and they seem to be under staffed. Dave Monk, OCtoolguy and kmmcrafts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rolf said: I have been a huge supporter of Hawk since I purchased my G4 26 back in 2005. Don't get me wrong I would not give up my Hawk. I think at this point if I were to buy a brand new saw I would buy the Pegas over all of the other brands using this arm design for the following reasons. 1. I like the tilting Arm, great for doing inlays. 2. Pegas has the best clamps on this type of saw. I have always disliked the clamps on the Dewalts, and all of the EX's. 3. You need no additional gimmicks to hold the upper arm up for top feeding. I am not discounting the Hawks they are still a great saw, but I am not sure what the owners focus is. It takes too long to get one,and they seem to be under staffed. Not their primary business. More like a hobby. Too bad. They should hire someone to run it more like a business. With proper management, they could reduce cost of manufacture, lower the retail price and sell more of them. JMHO! Edited June 26, 2019 by octoolguy GrampaJim, kmmcrafts and Rolf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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