Rockytime Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 MultiMax 14, Serial 2002, 1988, $100 Assuming in good condition is it worth it? jbrowning and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Rockytime said: MultiMax 14, Serial 2002, 1988, $100 Assuming in good condition is it worth it? I always look to see what isn't there. Because to make it up to current specs, it costs a lot of money. But with that said, for $100 you could take a chance on it. You'll get a lot of scrolling out of it if the motor is still good. I did a lot of studying and questions before I bought the one I did. The lever near you for tensioning is the big thing. Otherwise, all the tensioning is done at the rear of the saw away from you. But, a little 14 inch saw isn't that bad. I've been watching one near me that has come down to$280 and I thought about offering him a $100 but then, I thought, why do I need another saw. Especially one that I would have to spend at least $300 to get it to where it should be. I paid $300 for the one I had and it had all the updates and the factory stand. I turned it for $700 after playing with it for a while. Charley L is the person to ask. He gave me a lot of info on the Hegs. This is the one I've been watching. https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/tls/d/huntington-beach-multimax-scroll-saw/6900292324.html Here is one that has all the updated stuff. You can compare the pictures. The lever that you see here is the tension lever. Makes life easier.https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/d/palmdale-hegner-scroll-saw/6934118728.html Edited July 21, 2019 by octoolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Photo looks good. Says it runs well but has been unused for quite awhile. Was listed 6 hours ago. Don't need it and don't have room for it.....but. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowning Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I was looking at the same one Rockytime, from the looks it looked like it might have been a 22". But after I talked to her I saw it was only a 14", so I decided to pass on it. Good luck, I hope it works well for you. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rockytime said: Photo looks good. Says it runs well but has been unused for quite awhile. Was listed 6 hours ago. Don't need it and don't have room for it.....but. Does it include a stand? That in itself is work another hundred. The big thing that I think would bother me, and it's just me, I don't think that saw has variable speed. I think it has a belt that is used to change speeds. But, if you want to play around with a Hegner, not a bad price. I'd have to at least go check it out. Is it close to you? jbrowning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 It does come with a stand. I'll try to get hold of the owner tomorrow. If I'm too late it's OK as I have no business getting more stuff. Sometimes one has to ignore good sense. OCtoolguy and jbrowning 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rockytime said: It does come with a stand. I'll try to get hold of the owner tomorrow. If I'm too late it's OK as I have no business getting more stuff. Sometimes one has to ignore good sense. Well, if you are anything like me, I can't pass up a deal and if it's something that I know I can make a few bucks on, what the heck, why not? As long as the bills are paid and there is food on the table, go for it. Rockytime and jbrowning 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I'd be curious how hard it is to do the tension on a 14". You have to loosen the tension to switch blades or do hole changes of fret work. That would seem to be a lot of turning or the knob, but maybe not. There is one up here a 18", newer model with the insert table, quick release clamp, stand, up front tension release, says it is like new and it looks it from the pictures.... $425 and been posted since 7/6. Saws just don't sell up in this part of the country. Several Hawks, 2 Excaliburs a 21" and a 30" that all look real nice been listed for several weeks.... OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scrappile said: I'd be curious how hard it is to do the tension on a 14". You have to loosen the tension to switch blades or do hole changes of fret work. That would seem to be a lot of turning or the knob, but maybe not. There is one up here a 18", newer model with the insert table, quick release clamp, stand, up front tension release, says it is like new and it looks it from the pictures.... $425 and been posted since 7/6. Saws just don't sell up in this part of the country. Several Hawks, 2 Excaliburs a 21" and a 30" that all look real nice been listed for several weeks.... Is it still too wet to go out Paul? Maybe everybody is afraid of the rain or something. It is strange how different parts of the country have better luck at selling stuff. Here where I live, there are 35 million people so there are a lot of lookers/buyers for almost anything. Too bad those Ex's aren't down here. There's a 30 inch one on C/L here that has been listed for a month at $875. Cold day in Hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Scrappile said: I'd be curious how hard it is to do the tension on a 14". You have to loosen the tension to switch blades or do hole changes of fret work. That would seem to be a lot of turning or the knob, but maybe not. There is one up here a 18", newer model with the insert table, quick release clamp, stand, up front tension release, says it is like new and it looks it from the pictures.... $425 and been posted since 7/6. Saws just don't sell up in this part of the country. Several Hawks, 2 Excaliburs a 21" and a 30" that all look real nice been listed for several weeks.... I don't think turning is an issue. The saw is so small so the reach is close. It certainly won't replace my Hawk. I could even use it in the basement in the winter if I don't want to heat my shop. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Rockytime said: I don't think turning is an issue. The saw is so small so the reach is close. It certainly won't replace my Hawk. I could even use it in the basement in the winter if I don't want to heat my shop. Once you get use to the Hegner, you will sell the Hawk... I have never had the privilege of scrolling on a Hawk. Maybe some day the right deal will come up. If I ever see a good working G-4 at a low price,,, I almost connected with one a couple years ago... but I chickened out. Still sorry I did, I think. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Scrappile said: Once you get use to the Hegner, you will sell the Hawk... I have never had the privilege of scrolling on a Hawk. Maybe some day the right deal will come up. If I ever see a good working G-4 at a low price,,, I almost connected with one a couple years ago... but I chickened out. Still sorry I did, I think. The 14 is too small to replace the Hawk. To replace it I'd need a full size Hegner. My hawk is set up so conveniently I would hate to do everything over again. My saw is on wheels out of necessity. Dust collection is set up. I'm too old. I am very short on energy. I walk with a cane so getting down to do the smallest jobs are a real chore. I'm fortunate to have had my shop built perhaps 15 years ago. Three years ago I got rid of my large machine tools and a friend built new benches and shelves for me. I am no longer able to do those things. So I just sit at the saw and enjoy life every day. I think I had a bad day once but I can't remember. :>) OCtoolguy, jbrowning, meflick and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I bought a $100 rust bucket. I forgot how small 14" is. However, seeing it run I bought it. It has some rust that I can remove. The tension knob at the back is broken but I can replace it or make a new one. It is variable speed and runs smooth as silk through the entire range. I don't think I would sell yet. It is a cute little bugger. I can perhaps use it as a decorator piece in our picture window. I have pictures but I can't get them to load for some reason. I put them in a photo editor before posting but I can't get them into the editor. I'll work on it and post photos later. jbrowning and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rockytime said: I bought a $100 rust bucket. I forgot how small 14" is. However, seeing it run I bought it. It has some rust that I can remove. The tension knob at the back is broken but I can replace it or make a new one. It is variable speed and runs smooth as silk through the entire range. I don't think I would sell yet. It is a cute little bugger. I can perhaps use it as a decorator piece in our picture window. I have pictures but I can't get them to load for some reason. I put them in a photo editor before posting but I can't get them into the editor. I'll work on it and post photos later. That sounds promising. It might be just right for those little projects. The fact that it is variable speed is a pleasant surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Congrats on the new to you saw!! I had the opportunity to grab one of the 14" Hegners for $70 on a stand last year but my brain wasn't working correctly and I passed on it.. mainly because of the single speed and no up front blade release.. I do wish i'd have grabbed it now.. They did give me all the blades and a box of parts.. that turned out to be bunch of big blades I'd never use.. and the parts were Hegner blade clamps and the rear tension springs things.. I gave the blades away but still have all those blade clamps and odd parts box.. I'm gonna try me a Hegner some day.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 I'm trying to up-load photos but I get a message that says my browser does not support Java Script. Don't know what happened as It worked yesterday. Hmmmmm I got two boxes of blades big enough to take down a tree trunk! OCtoolguy and jbrowning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Well, now you have me looking for a tiny Hegner. We have a window that needs something. If I come across one, I'll snatch it up. Good luck with yours. Lots of info and help if you need it at Advanced Machinery. Wolfgang is very responsive if you email him with questions. Parts are readily available too. Expensive though. jbrowning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Well I got my rust bucket cleaned up. I removed the arms, cleaned them and lubricated the bushings. Looking a little better now. It was filthy and every steel part was rusted. Chipped paint on the stand. This saw was unused for many years. The lady selling it said it was her fathers and she kept it to make things when her kids were in scouts but said she never could figure out how to use it. It's been sitting a very long time.. All it needs is the tension rod at the rear of the saw. Hegner wants $61 for the rod and two wedges. Not gonna happen. I'll make one tomorrow. The spring is rusted but certainly usable. Hegner wants $10 for a replacement. Not gonna happen. I does run smooth as silk through the entire range of speeds. It will be a great little saw. It has taken some serious rearranging to make room for it. It's not ideal but is workable. It required moving my drill press outside the shop but that's OK. John B, meflick, OCtoolguy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looks good. Congrats on the baby. Rockytime and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrollingforsanity Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looks like you found a new toy. You will have lots of fun making saw dust with this. I tried one and it wasn't for me. But they are nice saws and I am sure you will enjoy it. grizz Rockytime and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrowning Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Congrats on the new toy. I love my 18" Hegner. Rockytime and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Nice find and great saw. Rockytime and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Hey Les, I got curious about the Hegner 14" saws so I took a trip to the Advanced Machinery website to look at them. I'm surprised to find out that the new ones are single speed. You did say yours was variable speed, correct? Also, I don't know how far you got with their site as to reading about the new saws as compared to the old ones but I found this updated tension lever/device that is retrofittable to your older saw. Just food for thought for when you get to making your new tension parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, octoolguy said: Hey Les, I got curious about the Hegner 14" saws so I took a trip to the Advanced Machinery website to look at them. I'm surprised to find out that the new ones are single speed. You did say yours was variable speed, correct? Also, I don't know how far you got with their site as to reading about the new saws as compared to the old ones but I found this updated tension lever/device that is retrofittable to your older saw. Just food for thought for when you get to making your new tension parts. Thanks for the info. I had seen this before but was not aware it was available for the 14V. I did a couple of test cuts today after making my tension rod. Hegner wanted $62, mine cost $3.17 for the knob. The saw is virtually vibration-less from 0 to 1750 spm. Smoother than a baby's butt. I tried cutting with a #9 Pegas MG on 1/2" Poplar. OCtoolguy and jbrowning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 That's great. Did you get any extra blade clamps and the tightening wrench? Also, did you see what I said about the variable speed? I can't believe they stopped putting that on the new saws. Anyway, enjoy your new toy. I know you'll love it. I liked the one I had except for the speed problem. I'll be looking for another one. Maybe just like yours. There is one near me that I can get for $200 but that's more than I want to pay. jbrowning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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