Miran Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Okay, if you could all see me now I bet you will laugh. I finished my sawing and now try to peel the pattern of. And let me say....it goes even slower then the sawing I bet you all know a better way then just peeling thirds of inches of OCtoolguy and lawson56 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 How did you put it on? Spray adhesive and stuck to the wood or did you put blue painters tape on first. If it is glued directly to the wood with a spray on adhesive, wipe it down with mineral Spirits and is should lift right off. If I use the painters tape, I use a flat end X-acto blade to work it up. OCtoolguy and Miran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Ditto what Paul said, except a fingernail works as well as an x-acto knife and there is little chance of gouging the wood Miran, OCtoolguy and SCROLLSAW703 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miran Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Thanks, I used spray adhesive and direct on the wood. I do understand from this I better can use the tape before I put on the pattern instead of the other way around like I did now OCtoolguy, danny and SCROLLSAW703 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) Either way works fine, it is personal preference. I do it both ways, depending on which person I am on a certain day...... You can also use the Mineral Spirits to wipe off the residue glue left on the wood from the adhesive. Edited August 20, 2019 by Scrappile OCtoolguy and Miran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrollingforsanity Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Pauls advice is good. The mineral spirits will make it easy to remove the pattern. Many years ago I was a little misunderstanding about the tape thing to, what relief when I finally figured out how it worked. But then I always learn things the hard way. grizz Miran and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscottj Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 All of the ways described work well. I have used all of them over the years. I tried the contact shelf paper with the pattern attached with spray glue on top of that and found it to be by far the easiest to remove. I can remove it all in one piece even on detailed portraits. I have used all the methods described, but now do the shelf paper almost exclusively unless I am stack cutting some project where a wrap of tape holds it together in the stack also. I am using shelf paper from the dollar store at this time, but not sure it holds quite as well as name brand, but it has not failed yet. I can just tell it doesn't have the same adhesion. Been doing intarsia and smaller scrolling with it. I don't think I would trust it on a detailed portrait like I have done with name brand. OCtoolguy and Miran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Well this may sound odd.But I use Carbon Paper. Miran and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miran Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, lawson56 said: Well this may sound odd.But I use Carbon Paper. uhm does that stay on well? Because with my work, my woofers and kids I don't have the time to sroll 1 pattern just in 1 or 2 days. It is really a hobby were I take the time for when I can and want. So sometimes it has to stay on for days lawson56 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Some glues designed for scroll sawing come off easily, sometimes before you have even finished sawing. Other glues can hold too good. Can you tell us exactly what glue that you used? If you can't peel it off and it's on flat work, have you tried just sanding it off? Maybe a paint thinner, applied to the pattern, would dissolve the glue bond. I mostly do 3D scroll sawing and use regular stationary store rubber cement to attach my patterns. For most of what I make, the pattern comes off with the scrap wood, so I never have a problem removing it, but paint solvents do dissolve rubber cement. Charley OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loftyhermes Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 When spray gluing the pattern to the wood use a repositionable glue onto the back of the pattern not the wood. No painters tape or anything else needed except for thick wood 3/4" and over, when clear packing tape over the pattern to prevent the cut burning. I have used this system for over 20 years and it's never been a problem getting the pattern off of the wood. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I use the ‘contact’ shelf paper and self adhesive labels. No problems. No tape, no sticky spray. I only use the spray when the pattern is too big for the labels. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Miran said: Thanks, I used spray adhesive and direct on the wood. I do understand from this I better can use the tape before I put on the pattern instead of the other way around like I did now I usually print my patterns onto full-page shipping labels. No tape, nothing. I just use a heat gun and they lift right off after a bit of warming. And the residue that is left behind sands off very easily. scrollingforsanity and Miran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miran Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thanks all for the great tips OCtoolguy and danny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 There are a lot of factors that should determine the best way to attach and remove patterns. When working with plywood or patterns that have fine delicate sections I never use tape or shelving paper. The reason is removing tape from plywood will and not can lift away off fibers of wood. Pulling tape from delicate sections can pull off pieces. For the above I use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and remove the patterns with mineral spirits. OCtoolguy and Miran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 5:21 AM, Miran said: uhm does that stay on well? Because with my work, my woofers and kids I don't have the time to sroll 1 pattern just in 1 or 2 days. It is really a hobby were I take the time for when I can and want. So sometimes it has to stay on for days As long as I use tape,and trace the pattern on to the wood,It stays on forever, Miran and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Fengstad Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 I have used most that are already mentioned, recently discovered a spray on starting fluid used for starting diesel engines was very effective and dried very quickly with no residue OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyL Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 That "starting fluid" is either. Don't inhale much of it, or you may find yourself sleeping instead of working. Use it in a well ventilated area. Charley OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 I recently bought some adhesive shelf paper at the Dollar Tree. It is not a large roll but for a $1 has gone quite a ways and seems to work just fine. I especially like it for larger pieces as doesn't take so much blue tape. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_O_Be Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I've recently discovered Duck brand contact paper from wally world. 12" x 30' for 6.00. I use a small 4" ink roller to lay it down and haven't had any problems with it lifting or when I remove it. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Be_O_Be said: I've recently discovered Duck brand contact paper from wally world. 12" x 30' for 6.00. I use a small 4" ink roller to lay it down and haven't had any problems with it lifting or when I remove it. I use the same ink roller being an old printer. OCtoolguy and Be_O_Be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 This is the roller I use. I bought it years ago, I think it is a veneer roller. Be_O_Be and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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