Attention all you flockers

[Dave Monk]

I have been seeing several boxes you guys have done with flocking on the inside. I thought I would give it a try and order a kit.  The first project I did I wasn't really happy with. It came out a bit streaked.  I thought I had plenty of flocking put on. I watched a few u tube videos and tried it again.   Made another attempt. Tried to make sure I put on plenty glue and flocking.  Same results. Suggestions are appreciated. 

[OzarkSawdust]

5 minutes ago, Dave Monk said:

I have been seeing several boxes you guys have done with flocking on the inside. I thought I would give it a try and order a kit.  The first project I did I wasn't really happy with. It came out a bit streaked.  I thought I had plenty of flocking put on. I watched a few u tube videos and tried it again.   Made another attempt. Tried to make sure I put on plenty glue and flocking.  Same results. Suggestions are appreciated. 

OK...I'm new...what the heck is he talking about?? Picture please!

[Dave Monk]

4 minutes ago, OzarkSawdust said:

OK...I'm new...what the heck is he talking about?? Picture please!

This one is not mine but notice the inside.

[don in brooklin on]

Are you sealing first?

I use a least 2 coats of seal coat.  (ie Shellac) and make sure the colour is fairly smooth.  It seems to float smooth.

Spray hard and lots. Let sit overnight. Never had an issue.

Edited September 8, 2019 by don in brooklin on

[JimErn]

Now I am flattered Dave, using one of mine, thank you!

Back in that first thread I did about flocking I said I did not go with the one you are showing, the one I went with used acrylic paint and it works good.  So I can't speak to using the paste in the kit you showed.  Walmart carries the hunter green paint in the craft section, less than a buck for a 2oz  bottle and that is plenty

One thing I do is I made a tamper, block of wood rounded on all edges and gently "tamp" the flocking, gives is a crushed velvet look, rather than the felt look - well my opinion anyway.  Of course that is after "spraying" a hefty layer of flocking.

 

edit - read Don's reply, I use sanding sealer, one coat, no sanding

Edited September 8, 2019 by JimErn

[Dave Monk]

6 minutes ago, don in brooklin on said:

Are you sealing first?

I use a least 2 coats of seal coat.  (ie Shellac) and make sure the colour is fairly smooth.  It seems to float smooth.

Spray hard and lots. Let sit overnight. Never had an issue.

Don, I am sealing first.

[Dave Monk]

6 minutes ago, JimErn said:

Now I am flattered Dave, using one of mine, thank you!

Back in that first thread I did about flocking I said I did not go with the one you are showing, the one I went with used acrylic paint and it works good.  So I can't speak to using the paste in the kit you showed.  Walmart carries the hunter green paint in the craft section, less than a buck for a 2oz  bottle and that is plenty

One thing I do is I made a tamper, block of wood rounded on all edges and gently "tamp" the flocking, gives is a crushed velvet look, rather than the felt look - well my opinion anyway.  Of course that is after "spraying" a hefty layer of flocking.

Jim, It is a fairly thick oil base glue. Are you thinning the paint? The only thing I would worry about is that I don't know if the paint would stick to lacquer.

[OzarkSawdust]

Cool! Those are really nice looking! Might have to try that some day. Thanks!

[Rockytime]

This a family site with women and younger folks. Let's clean up the language, Please.

[JimErn]

43 minutes ago, Dave Monk said:

Jim, It is a fairly thick oil base glue. Are you thinning the paint? The only thing I would worry about is that I don't know if the paint would stick to lacquer.

No I do not thin the paint, I don't do lacquer, just can not manage to get it looking good, and I like the smell of wood, so I don't know if it would stick or not.  but at less than a buck at wally world, worth experimenting I would think

[meflick]

I think the main key is to add lots and lots of the flocking and when you think you have enough, add some more. then make sure you let it set for the full period they say before removing the excess. Remember, you can collect the excess that does not stick and reuse it again so it does not hurt anything to use a LOT when flocking. Ithe. Use a paint brush as suggested to help smooth it out and get out excess.

 Interestingly enough, unlike Jim, the one time I didn’t have very good results and thought it was streaky and not very thick and looked bad was the time I used craft acrylic paint rather than the color adhesive you can get with the flocking. Was never really sure either why that was the case. I wondered if it was the paint, too thick of paint, not thick enough, Inconsistent on thickness, color I was using. It was the orange. What color were you using?

 

[Dave Monk]

59 minutes ago, meflick said:

I think the main key is to add lots and lots of the flocking and when you think you have enough, add some more. then make sure you let it set for the full period they say before removing the excess. Remember, you can collect the excess that does not stick and reuse it again so it does not hurt anything to use a LOT when flocking. Ithe. Use a paint brush as suggested to help smooth it out and get out excess.

 Interestingly enough, unlike Jim, the one time I didn’t have very good results and thought it was streaky and not very thick and looked bad was the time I used craft acrylic paint rather than the color adhesive you can get with the flocking. Was never really sure either why that was the case. I wondered if it was the paint, too thick of paint, not thick enough, Inconsistent on thickness, color I was using. It was the orange. What color were you using?

 

I am using a wine with the same color glue.

[kmmcrafts]

3 hours ago, Rockytime said:

This a family site with women and younger folks. Let's clean up the language, Please.

Yeah, I had to re-read that title a couple times,  

[JimErn]

10 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Yeah, I had to re-read that title a couple times,  

I never thought of it that way, I have been trying to figure out what the comment was directed at - I getting slower I guess,

[JimErn]

thinking about this overnight, when I put the paint in there if there are any streaks where I can sort of see the wood, I add more paint.

Nice thing too about using the acrylic paint, if there are missed areas, you can paint over it and re-flock it - found that out by accident, sort of

[Karl S]

Also don't put the base color on too thin, I usually squirt a puddle of the base color and brush it around and add more if needed, I use the acrylic paint also.

[meflick]

We have used the wine several times and always seem to have good results. As noted, put plenty of the colored adhesive down and then oversaturate the flocking so that yo can not see anything but flocking.

[Roberta Moreton]

I DO use that flocking kit with very good results. 

Finish everything first.  I use a plastic container for the entire kit. Easy to contain the mess and store the stuff. Put on enough colored glue, double check. Put the box IN the plastic container and flock. DO NOT SHAKE THE BOX.  Carefully remove the box and check for any shiny areas, these don’t have enough flocking. Reflock the box until there are no shiny spots. Extra flock is fine. Let set at least overnight. Turn the box over and shake the extra flock into the plastic container. This can now be put back into the puffer. After 24 hours you can tap the bottom of the box to remove the rest of the unstuck flock. This will take a bit. I usually turn it over upside down and ‘drop’ it  about an inch onto the table a few times. The “trick” is letting everything dry. 

[Dave Monk]

On 9/14/2019 at 8:13 PM, Roberta Moreton said:

I DO use that flocking kit with very good results. 

Finish everything first.  I use a plastic container for the entire kit. Easy to contain the mess and store the stuff. Put on enough colored glue, double check. Put the box IN the plastic container and flock. DO NOT SHAKE THE BOX.  Carefully remove the box and check for any shiny areas, these don’t have enough flocking. Reflock the box until there are no shiny spots. Extra flock is fine. Let set at least overnight. Turn the box over and shake the extra flock into the plastic container. This can now be put back into the puffer. After 24 hours you can tap the bottom of the box to remove the rest of the unstuck flock. This will take a bit. I usually turn it over upside down and ‘drop’ it  about an inch onto the table a few times. The “trick” is letting everything dry. 

Roberta, Are you using the Nylon or the Rayon?

[JimErn]

Dave you still having issues with the flocking process?

Per this web site, the difference is only about where the flocked item will be used

http://www.flockit.com/index.php/products/suede-tex/suede-tex-flock-fibers.html

Suede-Tex Spray-On Flocking Fibers are available in two (2) types:  

RAYON - durable for indoor use

NYLON - durable for indoor and outdoor use

Application of the flocking fibers is identical for both Nylon and Rayon, using the same Suede-Tex undercoat adhesive and application equipment.

[Dave Monk]

13 hours ago, JimErn said:

Dave you still having issues with the flocking process?

Per this web site, the difference is only about where the flocked item will be used

http://www.flockit.com/index.php/products/suede-tex/suede-tex-flock-fibers.html

Suede-Tex Spray-On Flocking Fibers are available in two (2) types:  

RAYON - durable for indoor use

NYLON - durable for indoor and outdoor use

Application of the flocking fibers is identical for both Nylon and Rayon, using the same Suede-Tex undercoat adhesive and application equipment.

Haven't tried any more yet. I need to order more. Just debating which type to buy.

[Roberta Moreton]

On 9/17/2019 at 6:17 AM, Dave Monk said:

Roberta, Are you using the Nylon or the Rayon?

I just use the suede-Tex. I didn’t know there was more than one type of fibers. Why would someone use it outside?

[Woodmaster1]

I use the flocking kit shown. I put finish on the box first then after it dries the glue is applied (same color as the flocking) next apply a generous amount of flocking let dry overnight and shake out the excess.

[John B]

G'day Dave,
I usually have to give my boxes 2 coats of paint. The1st I let dry, then apply a really thick coat, as thick as I can without getting runs, and do it fast. I have the flocking applicator all set up and ready to go, I then place the box in a large clear plastic box and start applying the flocking,  All this has to be done at a fairly rapid pace as you want the paint to be as wet as possible so the fibres stick. When I have enough flocking on, I put some more on, carefully place the whole thing to one side, over night. The next day knock of the excess flocking or gently blow it of, not with an air gun. It took me few goes before I got results I was pleased with.
Because it is so bloody hot here in the summer, I will only do flocking at night or else the paint dries too quick.
Cheers

[John B]

On 9/29/2019 at 9:39 PM, Roberta Moreton said:

I just use the suede-Tex. I didn’t know there was more than one type of fibers. Why would someone use it outside?

They use flocking for decoys, like ducks etc.