Attention all you flockers

[Scrappile]

@Dave Monk, just curious if you got this all figured out?  I am thinking of trying flocking the inside of the current box I am working on.  I have lined the inside of my current box with cherry veneer, to give a contrasting backer to the fret work.  I would kinda like to flock the inside, because it looks nice and it would cover up my less than perfect fitting of the backer on the sides of the box.  I have some concerns, one of which, I don't want to get flocking fibers in the outside fret work.  I don't think I could ever get it all cleaned out.  I think I would have to mask off the outside of the box real well to prevent this.   The other is I have never done the flocking before, so I thought maybe you got it all figured out and you could steer me in the right direction.... and one more how much can one of the kits cover this box is 11" x 11" x 3, pretty good sized... would one kit cover the inside.  And than another question, if I can do this and like how it turns out, I will probably want to do some others... can you use the same "puffer" thingy for different colors of do you need to get a separate "puffer" for different colors?

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[Dave Monk]

52 minutes ago, Scrappile said:

@Dave Monk, just curious if you got this all figured out?  I am thinking of trying flocking the inside of the current box I am working on.  I have lined the inside of my current box with cherry veneer, to give a contrasting backer to the fret work.  I would kinda like to flock the inside, because it looks nice and it would cover up my less than perfect fitting of the backer on the sides of the box.  I have some concerns, one of which, I don't want to get flocking fibers in the outside fret work.  I don't think I could ever get it all cleaned out.  I think I would have to mask off the outside of the box real well to prevent this.   The other is I have never done the flocking before, so I thought maybe you got it all figured out and you could steer me in the right direction.... and one more how much can one of the kits cover this box is 11" x 11" x 3, pretty good sized... would one kit cover the inside.  And than another question, if I can do this and like how it turns out, I will probably want to do some others... can you use the same "puffer" thingy for different colors of do you need to get a separate "puffer" for different colors?

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I must say that I am getting better. I figured out that the main problem I was having was that I was not holding my puffer close enough.  One kit is enough to do a few boxes. I have watched about every You Tube on flocking and everyone is taping the top edge of their box off.  It is working best for me not to tape and have a rag with mineral spirits handy to wipe off the top edge.  The glue comes off easy being your box is finished first. If you have cracks of any size you want to fill those.  After you flock it don't rush it. Put it up on a shelf for a couple of days before you dump it an blow it out.

 

Everyone has their own opinion on flocking. My wife doesn't care about it but I have a lot of customers ask for it. 

Good luck. I know it  is scary doing such a beautiful box especially how much time you have in it.

 

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

2 hours ago, Scrappile said:

@Dave Monk, just curious if you got this all figured out?  I am thinking of trying flocking the inside of the current box I am working on.  I have lined the inside of my current box with cherry veneer, to give a contrasting backer to the fret work.  I would kinda like to flock the inside, because it looks nice and it would cover up my less than perfect fitting of the backer on the sides of the box.  I have some concerns, one of which, I don't want to get flocking fibers in the outside fret work.  I don't think I could ever get it all cleaned out.  I think I would have to mask off the outside of the box real well to prevent this.   The other is I have never done the flocking before, so I thought maybe you got it all figured out and you could steer me in the right direction.... and one more how much can one of the kits cover this box is 11" x 11" x 3, pretty good sized... would one kit cover the inside.  And than another question, if I can do this and like how it turns out, I will probably want to do some others... can you use the same "puffer" thingy for different colors of do you need to get a separate "puffer" for different colors?

https://www.scrollsawvillage.com/forums/topic/36958-kind-of-scrolling-i-like-edit-129/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-410090

 

Flocking is very easy to do. The material will only stick to surfaces that are painted with the adhesive so if it gets in the fret work, no big deal. It will fall out when you shake the box or you can blow it out or use a soft brush. Just use clean paper under the project to catch all the loose fibers and pour back into the bag. One bag goes a long way. The puffer is great and no you can reuse as long as you clean it out and what I do is dump excess back in bag and then use shop vac and vac it out. Works great. The whole trick is to work quickly so the paint does not dry on you and plan your stratagy ahead of time. Have puffer filled and ready. Tape off areas you do not want to flock because it makes painting so much easier and faster and you do not have to be picky. Use the proper color adhesive for the color flocking in case something shows through. It is tough to redo but can be done if need be but the best advice is when you think you have flocked enough, flock some more. Never can overflock. Flocking will not hide poor joints. It is not like felt. Speaking of felt, that is another way to go. I have made many boxes and lined them with stickyback felt and looked good. Here are some examples of my flocking. One important note is allow at least 24 hours to dry. I leave it for a couple days to be sure. 

On the pool table I flocked the top and rails and inside the box I use felt. The piano was red cardinal flocking and the Diamond shaped box was a deep blue. I flocked the tapered pen holder as well as the underside of the lid of the box. Used same puffer for all, and it was actually easy to do. 

 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2020 by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[Scrappile]

@JTTHECLOCKMAN, Thanks, I thought about the sticky back felt and in fact did the inside of a pen box with it.  I'm just a little worried if the sticky stuff stays stuck for a long time.....

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

6 hours ago, Scrappile said:

@JTTHECLOCKMAN, Thanks, I thought about the sticky back felt and in fact did the inside of a pen box with it.  I'm just a little worried if the sticky stuff stays stuck for a long time.....

Well have to say this, I make some Religious cross boxes that are meant to hold prayer cards and prayer beads and other items like that. It has a scrolled cross sitting on top of a box and inside the box I glued colored acrylic mirror to back of the fret work and then I covered the back of the mirror with sticky back felt. I use different colors depending on the woods used. Well to make a long story short a customer had a broken the cross and damaged the box. I said I would fix it for them free of charge. I went to pull that felt off and it was stuck very well on there. That was after about 3 years. So can not say for sure but. 

[Roberta Moreton]

You can use the same puffer if you clean it out completely.  I use a plastic box with a lid to hold my glue, flocking, and puffer. The box is big enough to set most of my projects in for puffing. After completely drying I turn the project over for the excess to stay in the box, by tapping, etc.  then I can pour that excess back in the bag.  For a different color I use a different box for a complete kit, including the puffer. It’s just a few bucks and saves a lot of possible frustration. 

[JimErn]

I do mostly the same thing as Roberta, tupperware container as the place where I puff the flocking, but I do buy one flocking puffer tube per color.  I found that it is easier, to me anyway, and I  use the mini-puffer tube (cheaper too).

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[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

One important safety note, wear a good dust mask and safety glasses. That fine material will get in your lungs. I should have mentioned I use newspaper under my projects and then just the crease in the paper makes a nice funnel to pour back in the bag. 

[Jim Finn]

I have flocked a few of the boxes I make.  I use a very thick coat of oil based paint I get at my local paint store. Leave a smooth puddle on the bottom of the box and then apply a LOT of flocking of the same color.  Oil base paint (not the glue suggested) dries slowly. (A good thing)  Let it sit a few days, before removing excess rayon flocking material, and allow to air out the odor a few more.